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[Saudade]

UPDATE :
IMPORTANT - Lv50 Build excesses 1 SP, max SP in our server is 91, you can have take 1 SP on your personal preference.


BEFORE FOLLOWING THE BUILD

• Level 40 build is dedicated to follow until you reach Lv50, meaning even if you are Lv45~>49 you will still won't be able to use Ultimate & Gear Master Skills.
  
• If you wanted to gain access to the Ultimate & Gear Master Skills during Lv40~>49, you will need a Reset Scroll in the end.
  
• The Lv50~>Lv60 requires a Reset Scroll
  
• DESCRIPTIONS ARE SOMEWHAT REPEATING BUT THERE ARE SOME THERE THAT HAS BEEN CHANGED. DONT GET BORED READING.
  
• Please bare with my wrong grammars, I'm not good at English.

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T4 Lv40 Gear Master PVE



The T4 is very tricky when it comes to building up skills, because it requires a certain SP needed to spend on the Class Skill Tier to able to level up a skill in the Next Class Skill Tier.

IF YOU WANT TO GAIN ACCESS TO THE ULTIMATE & GEAR MASTER SKILLS BUT YOU'RE NOT Lv50 YET, YOU WILL NEED RESET SCROLL

WE WILL FOCUS ON LEVELING SKILLS

Academic Skill TIER
I maximize the needed skill from Academic Skill Tier while spending the minimum SP as possible.
SP needed to learn Lv32 Engineer Skills : 35

Its your choice to add Force Out OR Bubble Bubble(depending on player's preference) now or later.

Final SP if added : SP 38

Engineer Skill TIER

Max Ice Tower Only

• Gatling Tower & Cannon Tower are not needed because when you reach Lv50 you will be able to summon 1 Ice Tower & 2 Chainsaw Tower

Max Ping Pong Shot

• THIS.

Max Mine Thrower

• Superb damage to large enemies

Max Damage Transition

• Great buff, recommended to max for raids

Max Bio Chem Missile

• Cool debuff and superb damage too.

Lv6 Mecha Duck

• Decent launching damage & prerequisite for Mecha Duck EX

Lv5 Mecha Shock

• Decent damage & prerequisite for Lv6 Mecha Duck EX

Max Mecha Bomber

• Superb Damage x 3 mecha ducks

Lv41~49 Leveling

• If Level Up is available for the above said skills, level it up.

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T4 Lv50 Gear Master Build PVE



Now you will get your chance to improve your tower play by using the record-holder best DPS skill in DN. Chainsaw Tower!

Academic Skill TIER
SP needed to access Ultimate : 45

• Follow the Lv40 Skill Build for this Lv50 Build
  
• Leveled Up the Lv40 skills to reach the 45 SP requirement except for MANA UP

Engineer Skill TIER
SP needed to access Gear Master Skill Tier : 65

Max Ice Tower Only

• Gatling Tower & Cannon Tower are not needed because when you reach Lv50 you will be able to summon 1 Ice Tower & 2 Chainsaw Tower

Max Ping Pong Shot

• THIS.

Max Mine Thrower

• Superb damage to large enemies

Max Damage Transition

• Great buff, recommended to max for raids

Max Bio Chem Missile

• Cool debuff and superb damage too.

Lv6 Mecha Duck

• Decent launching damage & prerequisite for Mecha Duck EX

Lv6 Mecha Shock

• Lv5 has 208% + 643 damage
  
• Lv6 has 238% + 2029 damage
  
• Great damage growth thats why it is recommended to Lv6.

Max Mecha Bomber
Superb Damage x 3 mecha ducks

Gear Master Skill TIER
Pretty obvious to max all the skill here present at the current level.

Note : for better summoning of Chainsaw Tower, CD plate is recommended.

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T4 Lv60 Gear Master Build PVE [REQUIRES RESET SCROLL]



This build is the final and fully PVE build that I made for Gear Masters

Academic Skill TIER
SP needed to access Ultimate : 45

Lv1 MP UP

• Cons. will be achieved from Potentials.

No Force Out or Bubble Bubble

• The 45 SP requirement can be achieve without sacrificing SP to this skills.

Engineer Skill TIER
SP needed to access Gear Master Skill Tier : 65


No Gravity Grenade

• This is the cons of this build.

Max Ice Tower Only

• Gatling Tower & Cannon Tower are not needed because when you reach Lv50 you will be able to summon 1 Ice Tower & 2 Chainsaw Tower

Max Ping Pong Shot

• THIS.

Lv12 Mine Thrower

• Superb damage to large enemies

Max Damage Transition

• Great buff, recommended to max for raids

Max Bio Chem Missile

• Cool debuff and superb damage too.

Lv6 Mecha Duck

• Decent launching damage & prerequisite for Mecha Duck EX

Lv6 Mecha Shock

• Lv5 has 208% + 643 damage
  
• Lv6 has 238% + 2029 damage
  
• Great damage growth thats why it is recommended to Lv6.

Max Mecha Bomber
Superb Damage x 3 mecha ducks

Gear Master Skill TIER
Pretty obvious to max all the skill here present at the current level.

Note : for better summoning of Chainsaw Tower, CD plate is recommended.


Courtesy of Duowan
T4 Calculator : http://dn.duowan.com...ootingstar.html

Good Luck!

Edited by Saudade, 04 September 2012 - 06:27 AM.

[Namnami]

Nice guide. I'm sure you have seen my post about it already harhar

[Namnami]

Got a question.

1. What will be the CD of chainsaw w/ Epic chainsaw plate cd be?

2. Have you actually tried big mecha bomber, even on other servers?

3. If you have tried BIG mecha bomber. Does it requires a duck to be used or can this skill be casted without an actual duck on the field?

4. Is chainsaw tower has more range and hit box than gatling tower?

5. What path will you choose, Gearmerster or Shootingstar?

[Saudade]

Namnami, on 30 August 2012 - 09:19 AM, said:

Got a question.

1. What will be the CD of chainsaw w/ Epic chainsaw plate cd be?
still researching


2. Have you actually tried big mecha bomber, even on other servers?
not yet, but i will try it myself.


3. If you have tried BIG mecha bomber. Does it requires a duck to be used or can this skill be casted without an actual duck on the field?
doesn't require base on international servers
i tried it myself, doesnt require.

4. Is chainsaw tower has more range and hit box than gatling tower?
definitely yes

5. What path will you choose, Gearmerster or Shootingstar?
both
My saudade now is Shooting Star, I'm going to make another for gear master.

Edited by Saudade, 30 August 2012 - 07:00 PM.

[YuenAi]

For nami's question #1

Asrod, on 30 August 2012 - 07:23 AM, said:

Fourrier chainsaw tower + plate =13.2 CD and it lasts 20 sec so u can summon 2 i got epic plate myself (got lucky on abyss with gold chest)

[Wetblanket]

How does maxing gravity grenade fare? Anyone tried it?

[YuenAi]

Wetblanket, on 30 August 2012 - 11:15 AM, said:

How does maxing gravity grenade fare? Anyone tried it?

Based on v2s3raph, it's not worth maxing gravity.

[Saudade]

YuenAi, on 30 August 2012 - 11:16 AM, said:

Based on v2s3raph, it's not worth maxing gravity.

I personally think its not even worth spending sp @.@ lol

[Wetblanket]

YuenAi, on 30 August 2012 - 11:16 AM, said:

Based on v2s3raph, it's not worth maxing gravity.

Saudade, on 30 August 2012 - 07:01 PM, said:

I personally think its not even worth spending sp @.@ lol

I see... Appreciated!

[YuenAi]

Saudade, on 30 August 2012 - 07:01 PM, said:

I personally think its not even worth spending sp @.@ lol

Though the suction makes a good holding skill for Chainsaw and Gatling to be more effective.

Edited by YuenAi, 30 August 2012 - 07:20 PM.

[Saudade]

YuenAi, on 30 August 2012 - 07:19 PM, said:

Though the suction makes a good holding skill for Chainsaw and Gatling to be more effective.

ah yea, I noticed chainsaw tower has low accuracy for mid to small size moving monsters.
is it only me or the chain saw tower is kinda low than I expected.. I expected it would deal damage like 25k per hit,, it only came to me like 12k per hit

while my canon tower has 15-17k damge lv6

Edited by Saudade, 30 August 2012 - 07:27 PM.

[Yaranaika]

Really? Chainsaw has been doing fine for me. Around more than 20k per crit. The first time I tested it, soloing Manti Norm, it reached somewhere between 20-30+k a crit. Also tested it earlier on the Mimic boss (Abyss) and it did 22k-25k per crit.

Edited by Yaranaika, 30 August 2012 - 07:44 PM.

[Saudade]

Yaranaika, on 30 August 2012 - 07:42 PM, said:

Really? Chainsaw has been doing fine for me. Around more than 20k per crit. The first time I tested it, soloing Manti Norm, it reached somewhere between 20-30+k a crit. Also tested it earlier on the Mimic boss (Abyss) and it did 22k-25k per crit.

I only tried it on the Final Trial

[Yaranaika]

I see. But IIRC, it still did around 20k a crit back then.

[Kcube989]

Is it really worth it to max Bio Chem and Mine Thrower? My build is pretty similar to yours, but i have pvp skills (flash grenade, bubble lvl 3, air drop)

[makaynoh]

y u no lvl gatling tower? 2 chainsaw towers+ice pump? u still have to wait for 13.2 secs CD of chainsaw tower to summon the second one. in that 13.2secs you will only have 2 towers up. and gatling tower can fill that gap. gatling tower is 12 secs duration.

example:

u summon gatling, chainsaw and ice pump
after 12 secs, gatling is gone
after 13.2 secs, chainsaw CD is finished
so u summon chainsaw

= MAX DPS

[Saudade]

makaynoh, on 31 August 2012 - 12:25 AM, said:

y u no lvl gatling tower? 2 chainsaw towers+ice pump? u still have to wait for 13.2 secs CD of chainsaw tower to summon the second one. in that 13.2secs you will only have 2 towers up. and gatling tower can fill that gap. gatling tower is 12 secs duration.

example:

u summon gatling, chainsaw and ice pump
after 12 secs, gatling is gone
after 13.2 secs, chainsaw CD is finished
so u summon chainsaw

= MAX DPS

because when doing long nest, and continues tower summon, you will end up replacing 1 chainsaw or ice pump for gatling,
so hard to explain @.@

plus i dont think 15SP points just to cover the CD time of chainsaw is good, might actually use the maxed out mine thrower and focus on ducks mecha bomber & cast the big mecha bomb

lol its hard to explain so I made I graph.
orange represent chainsaw
blue represent icetower
red represent gatling



the thick border represent the time you can have the 2 chainsaw tower simultaneously.
with the gatling, it is not consistent plus it ruin the stacking and the ice tower is affected.

your choice, this will cost you 14SP if you plan maxing gatling.

Edited by Saudade, 31 August 2012 - 01:31 AM.

[makaynoh]

in lvl 50 i just take the sp from mine thrower and biochem missile. its hard to use mine thrower and hit the mobs with all its bullets. and leave bio missile to pre req since debuff doesnt increase when lvl increases. xD but its my build and its ur build. so yeah xD

[Saudade]

makaynoh, on 31 August 2012 - 01:39 AM, said:

in lvl 50 i just take the sp from mine thrower and biochem missile. its hard to use mine thrower and hit the mobs with all its bullets. and leave bio missile to pre req since debuff doesnt increase when lvl increases. xD but its my build and its ur build. so yeah xD

yup thats right, i just explained it since u ask why i didn't max my gatling

[Hidzrami]

I'm currently an alchemist ... going to make an engineer,
Do chain saw do multiple hit on big boss ? etc manti apo sdn
and is it worth to take alfredo whirldwind( i mean the skill where alfredo spins)? for Gearmaster