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Which Is Better When It Comes To Pvp? Crusader Or Guardian?


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#1 KStheGREAT

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 10:03 AM

Hello Pros!

I played DNS SEA up until cap 32 and then I stopped, now I'm going back to continue my Paladin Life. However I just knew that its already cap 50, T4 and all my skills were reset. This is good because I have an opportunity to choose between becoming a CRUSADER or a GUARDIAN. I normally play with my friends and so hooked up PVP-ing so which path should I take???

#2 Levan

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 10:05 AM

I dunno... but Judgement Hammer(is this name correct? I mean the large rotating hammer that Crusaders throw) is too good to pass up if you like PvP as opposed to Justice Crash. Holy Relic EX also does a ton of damage.

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 10:29 AM

View PostLevan, on 10 September 2012 - 10:05 AM, said:

I dunno... but Judgement Hammer(is this name correct? I mean the large rotating hammer that Crusaders throw) is too good to pass up if you like PvP as opposed to Justice Crash. Holy Relic EX also does a ton of damage.

Indeed I saw those 2 skills and I must say, it must be fun to use it.

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 03:48 PM

Pro(PVP) 1v1, Guardian. Semi-Pro(PVP) Group Pvps, PVE, Crusader.

im a guardian.

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 03:56 PM

Good skills is on a good hand~ (:])

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 05:00 PM

View PostYuinoji, on 10 September 2012 - 03:56 PM, said:

Good skills is on a good hand~ (:])

this (one)

#7 AngryBeast

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 05:54 PM

Guardian is better for 1v1. Crusader in team battle.

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 10:57 PM

For me Guardian is really effective in 1v1 because of Justice Crash sure stun + Electric Smite that can cause a great damage to your enemy. Crusader shines in group pvp because of Holy Relic Ex that has a large AOE and the Judgement hammer that you can spam every 15 secs. Me chose crusader not just because i love group pvp but because i love 1v1 pvp. Its up to you how you will handle your chosen job. Its all about talent, skill, and ability.

#9 KStheGREAT

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:56 AM

View Postdragonvaira, on 10 September 2012 - 03:48 PM, said:

Pro(PVP) 1v1, Guardian. Semi-Pro(PVP) Group Pvps, PVE, Crusader.

im a guardian.

Really? what main skills do you normally use to pawn your opponent?

#10 KStheGREAT

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:58 AM

View PostYuinoji, on 10 September 2012 - 03:56 PM, said:

Good skills is on a good hand~ (:])

I totally agree on this one, but let's just say, ideally both players have equal good hand skills, which will win do you think? based on available skills for guardian and crusader?

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:59 AM

View PostAngryBeast, on 10 September 2012 - 05:54 PM, said:

Guardian is better for 1v1. Crusader in team battle.

Interesting, what edge does guardian have on 1v1 PVP?

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 09:00 AM

View PostJHaYRoCkz, on 10 September 2012 - 10:57 PM, said:

For me Guardian is really effective in 1v1 because of Justice Crash sure stun + Electric Smite that can cause a great damage to your enemy. Crusader shines in group pvp because of Holy Relic Ex that has a large AOE and the Judgement hammer that you can spam every 15 secs. Me chose crusader not just because i love group pvp but because i love 1v1 pvp. Its up to you how you will handle your chosen job. Its all about talent, skill, and ability.


I read JUSTICE CRUSH and it seems COOL as well, how about the cool down times? and is it light attribute?
And for JUDGEMENT HAMMER, 15secs cool down time? wow, but how about the damage? is it effective?

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 10:46 AM

View PostKStheGREAT, on 11 September 2012 - 09:00 AM, said:

I read JUSTICE CRUSH and it seems COOL as well, how about the cool down times? and is it light attribute?
And for JUDGEMENT HAMMER, 15secs cool down time? wow, but how about the damage? is it effective?

justice deal normal physik damage its deal bout 10k in compe on pvp, its sure stun if it hit, CD 30s same as smite, and can be used in the mid air....

althought judgement hammer have 15s CD, its deal very little damage and SA piercing in short to medium range T-T, easily evade too...holy relic EX did a good damage around 8k-10k but its easily evade too...

so IMO guardian > crus in 1v1 pvp compe on

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 04:33 PM

View PostYuinoji, on 10 September 2012 - 03:56 PM, said:

Good skills is on a good hand~ (:])

of course, but this kind of answer wont satisfy anyone who asked..

people will go like this

View PostKStheGREAT, on 11 September 2012 - 08:58 AM, said:

I totally agree on this one, but let's just say, ideally both players have equal good hand skills, which will win do you think? based on available skills for guardian and crusader?

u need to answer based on the character/job.. not on the skill of the player.. however, it is still true that it is the user's skill that play the role..

Edited by Zecrow, 11 September 2012 - 04:34 PM.


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Posted 11 September 2012 - 04:58 PM

View PostKStheGREAT, on 11 September 2012 - 08:58 AM, said:

I totally agree on this one, but let's just say, ideally both players have equal good hand skills, which will win do you think? based on available skills for guardian and crusader?
sorry Im an Inquisitor
and for me Guardian gimme harder fight than crusader (:D)
both of them is really good class (clap)

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:18 PM

View Postkriiss_mail, on 11 September 2012 - 10:46 AM, said:

justice deal normal physik damage its deal bout 10k in compe on pvp, its sure stun if it hit, CD 30s same as smite, and can be used in the mid air....

althought judgement hammer have 15s CD, its deal very little damage and SA piercing in short to medium range T-T, easily evade too...holy relic EX did a good damage around 8k-10k but its easily evade too...

so IMO guardian > crus in 1v1 pvp compe on

Bolded, depends on the state of the opponent. If the opponent is jumping when being JCed, the will be no stun.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:28 PM

View PostYuinoji, on 11 September 2012 - 04:58 PM, said:

sorry Im an Inquisitor
and for me Guardian gimme harder fight than crusader br= both of them is really good class (clap)

true, i'm a Tempest actually.. and i find myself it is hard to face against a Guardian..

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:33 PM

View PostDopeyyy, on 11 September 2012 - 05:18 PM, said:

Bolded, depends on the state of the opponent. If the opponent is jumping when being JCed, the will be no stun.
fuuuck you, why you didnt tell me about this 1st (mad) (mad)

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:47 PM

View PostYuinoji, on 11 September 2012 - 05:33 PM, said:

fuuuck you, why you didnt tell me about this 1st (mad) (mad)
Dafuuuuuuuuuuu this is business secret, I wouldn't tell my secret of success to my enemy wouldn't I?

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:50 PM

View PostDopeyyy, on 11 September 2012 - 05:47 PM, said:


Dafuuuuuuuuuuu this is business secret, I wouldn't tell my secret of success to my enemy wouldn't I?
And is now public. (:D) off-topic: anyone has a good pvp oriented crusader build to recommend? (tense) most threads here are about pve. (shame)