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[Guide] Lethmax's Offensive Saint Build


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#1 LethMax

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 12:19 PM

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Leth's InSaint Guide To Nothingness

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*W.I.P. for 93 Awakening*
*Last update on 31/11/2016*

With the current state of awakening revamps, skill builds for PvE tends to be more straightforward as the awakening skills have their prerequisites to skill them up. Hence, this build will simply be testing and showcasing possible skills rotation and perhaps some useful tips and tricks.

93 Skill Build (Post-Awakening):
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PvE
Support Skills:
- Cure Relic EX (Remove debuffs + Move speed buff)
- Healing Relic EX (Recover HP + MP)
- Bind Relic EX (DMG debuff)
- Miracle Relic (DMG reduction buff)
- Protection Shell (DMG reduction buff)
- Heal (Recover HP)
- Great Heal (Recover HP)

DPS Skills:
- Lightning Relic EX
- Grand Cross (Can gain bubble)
- Holy Burst
- Shock of Relic
- Antiphona Pool (Can gain bubble)
- Blessed Sign

Skill Plates:
Support
- Cure Relic CD*
- Bind Relic CD*
- Miracle Relic CD
- Healing Relic CD
Utility
- Half-Turn Kick AS
- Holy Kick AS
DPS
- Lightning Relic CD*
- Shock of Relic DMG
- Holy Burst DMG

Note: AS = Action Speed, CD = Cooldown, DMG = Damage increase.

How Does Awakening Skills Work?
Bubble Buff Counter
Grand Cross Awakening Passive Skill allow bubble to be gained. With 100 bubbles, you can gain additional heal from healing relic or more damage from 2 additional antiphona pool.

Awakening Skills
Character Stats:

Antiphona Pool:

Blessed Sign:

Grand Cross:

Holy Burst:

Range of Skills

DPS of Skills

Skills Rotation

Tips & Tricks / Useful Information


*To be added: Skills rotation, Tips & Tricks, etc.

For gearing of character, please refer to FAQ You.

Edited by LethMax, 10 December 2016 - 08:35 AM.


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Posted 17 March 2013 - 12:20 PM

*WIP

Edited by LethMax, 30 November 2016 - 06:43 AM.


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Posted 17 March 2013 - 12:55 PM

This is an interesting guide (:])
Always wanted to make an offensive saint(i don't really like inqui skills aside from lightning bolt ex)

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 01:12 PM

(rock) (glance)
Very detailed guide. Saint version of Malygris is it? (lol)  Anyway, I do agree with the skill build and the item build. Could not have been better.
Kudos to Leth! (up)

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 01:28 PM

View PostYuenAi, on 17 March 2013 - 12:55 PM, said:

This is an interesting guide (:])
Always wanted to make an offensive saint(i don't really like inqui skills aside from lightning bolt ex)

View PostLexAzrael, on 17 March 2013 - 01:12 PM, said:

(rock) (glance)
Very detailed guide. Saint version of Malygris is it? (lol)  Anyway, I do agree with the skill build and the item build. Could not have been better.
Kudos to Leth! (up)
Thx guys. Was rushing this guide cuz Bella wanted to flame this... =.="
Would add more interesting details in the future.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 01:40 PM

w3w so pro, idol (oo)  , dat damage (love)

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 02:18 PM

Why you dragging my name into this dammit. (mad) (mad) (mad)

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 02:23 PM

View PostLethMax, on 17 March 2013 - 01:28 PM, said:

Thx guys. Was rushing this guide cuz Bella wanted to flame this... =.="
Would add more interesting details in the future.
LOL still waiting for Bella's flames.
EDIT : Oh he's here already (:>)

Edited by LexAzrael, 17 March 2013 - 02:23 PM.


#9 TetsuoRyuu

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 03:32 PM

Just wondering, have you tested a Lv 11 Lightning Bolt already with your current item build?

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 04:22 PM

Just wondering, why not inquisitor?

P.S. : Don't bash me, i'm just asking. (:])

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 04:40 PM

View Postlol123lol321, on 17 March 2013 - 04:22 PM, said:

Just wondering, why not inquisitor?

P.S. : Don't bash me, i'm just asking. (:])
Holy shield and his item build shows why

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 04:43 PM

View Postlol123lol321, on 17 March 2013 - 04:22 PM, said:

Just wondering, why not inquisitor?

P.S. : Don't bash me, i'm just asking. (:])
Because offensive Inquisitors are too mainstream.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 05:08 PM

Anyhow, balancing the time when you are supposed to be DPS and when you should go support is essential as DPS Saint.

Normal nest wise, you can go all out DPS since now normal (even hell one) your teammate technically wont dying, so it`s safe to go all out spam skills.

Raid wise, depend on overall party, for decent geared and experienced one, you are "allowed" to go offensive since you`ll clear each stage quickly and less chance of screwing up.
For average gear and inexperienced one, better go support and let your partymate`s butt alive first before thinking going DPS.

And I do agree for comments above, ability to deal DPS + Holy Shield is awesome. :D

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 06:14 PM

View PostEsquevella, on 17 March 2013 - 05:08 PM, said:

Anyhow, balancing the time when you are supposed to be DPS and when you should go support is essential as DPS Saint.

Normal nest wise, you can go all out DPS since now normal (even hell one) your teammate technically wont dying, so it`s safe to go all out spam skills.

Raid wise, depend on overall party, for decent geared and experienced one, you are "allowed" to go offensive since you`ll clear each stage quickly and less chance of screwing up.
For average gear and inexperienced one, better go support and let your partymate`s butt alive first before thinking going DPS.

And I do agree for comments above, ability to deal DPS + Holy Shield is awesome. :D

yes, now you go gear up to offensive saint (lol)

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 08:04 PM

View PostTetsuoRyuu, on 17 March 2013 - 03:32 PM, said:

Just wondering, have you tested a Lv 11 Lightning Bolt already with your current item build?
It is a good damage to have but do note that when i had a level 11 lightning bolt skill build... i have to sacrifice wand mastery, block and bind relic at lvl 1. Sp constraints to have level 11 lightning bolt is not worth it. (sorry)
In PVE, lv 11 lightning bolt is useful on bishop himself in ABN since charge bolt/relics are useless on top of him... other than that its not worth much for a saint.
I'll try to post a video of level 11 lightning relic vs level 11 lightning bolt to show a comparison of it. (;])

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 09:12 PM

View PostLethMax, on 17 March 2013 - 08:04 PM, said:

It is a good damage to have but do note that when i had a level 11 lightning bolt skill build... i have to sacrifice wand mastery, block and bind relic at lvl 1. Sp constraints to have level 11 lightning bolt is not worth it. (sorry)
In PVE, lv 11 lightning bolt is useful on bishop himself in ABN since charge bolt/relics are useless on top of him... other than that its not worth much for a saint.
I'll try to post a video of level 11 lightning relic vs level 11 lightning bolt to show a comparison of it. (;])
Lv 11 Lightning Relic is pretty nice assuming the target doesn't move that much, the DoT of it outdamage Lightning Bolt but it has so many loopholes.

Regarding the SP constraint, ye it's hard to get Lightning Bolt this cap. I tried playing with the skill simulator and I can't come up with a decent build to fit in Lightning Bolt.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 11:39 PM

View PostLethMax, on 17 March 2013 - 08:04 PM, said:

It is a good damage to have but do note that when i had a level 11 lightning bolt skill build... i have to sacrifice wand mastery, block and bind relic at lvl 1. Sp constraints to have level 11 lightning bolt is not worth it. (sorry)
In PVE, lv 11 lightning bolt is useful on bishop himself in ABN since charge bolt/relics are useless on top of him... other than that its not worth much for a saint.
I'll try to post a video of level 11 lightning relic vs level 11 lightning bolt to show a comparison of it. (;])
Will be waiting for that video. Due to SP constraints, I prefer not to max EX of Saints or Inqui. Will be great to see a video showing the damage of both skills when maxed.

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 12:56 AM

View PostLexAzrael, on 17 March 2013 - 11:39 PM, said:

Will be waiting for that video. Due to SP constraints, I prefer not to max EX of Saints or Inqui. Will be great to see a video showing the damage of both skills when maxed.

Lightning Relic level 11 vs Lightning Bolt Level 11

1. Lightning Relic



2. Lightning Bolt


Go decide for yourself.
Now, for the lulz (clap)

Edited by LethMax, 18 March 2013 - 12:54 PM.


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Posted 18 March 2013 - 02:35 AM

Thanks for the test.

Question though, did you use Lightning Bolt plate in your test?

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 05:28 AM

View PostLethMax, on 17 March 2013 - 01:28 PM, said:

Thx guys. Was rushing this guide cuz Bella wanted to flame this... =.="
Would add more interesting details in the future.
Flame Bella!!! (fire) (lol) (fire)