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#21 kirinfang

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 10:37 AM

being the tankiest class of all, having block SoF and assuming iron will and still need full tank build (oo;) Please someone sane make a full guide on paladin I can't watch anymore.



Oh well, if this still continues time to go to cleric cathederal @NA (:>) HUE HUE HUE

#22 TetsuoRyuu

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 10:42 AM

View Postkirinfang, on 21 March 2013 - 10:37 AM, said:

being the tankiest class of all, having block SoF and assuming iron will and still need full tank build (oo;) Please someone sane make a full guide on paladin I can't watch anymore.



Oh well, if this still continues time to go to cleric cathederal @NA (:>) HUE HUE HUE
Seriously? It's obvious for Guardians to take those skills. (oo;)

#23 kirinfang

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 10:45 AM

View PostTetsuoRyuu, on 21 March 2013 - 10:42 AM, said:

Seriously? It's obvious for Guardians to take those skills. (oo;)

(oo;) got my point?  If they take those skills why would full tank guardian would be optimal? And Iron will is never a must for paladin, tier ladder guardians I've heard of have dual ultimate just cause it tend to do better in paladin match up

#24 TetsuoRyuu

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 10:49 AM

Your post before that is misleading then. (oo;)

Prolly a "?" after the "still need full tank build" would do the job. (sorry)

#25 kirinfang

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 10:52 AM

Don't think so, and I did use the emote " (oo;) " showing how bewildered I am at sea's cleric


it's like using"Lah" in singlish which is more legit probably

#26 TetsuoRyuu

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 10:55 AM

I think we're on the same page anyway, so let's just cut this off, shall we? (:>)

PS:
I gotta learn singlish, I find it an interesting language. (lol)

Edited by TetsuoRyuu, 21 March 2013 - 10:56 AM.


#27 kirinfang

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 11:14 AM

yeah, I was just a bit (oo;) seeing how NA clerics are more galing than sea's , in terms of guides and all that(EVERYZHING PAK)

and I'm not even racist

I'm not even singaporean (shame), my guildies taught me everything I know

No hope lah , until aishawanatsu release a guide on pallies god knows what abomination is gonna pop up.
(and I've yet to see more than few decent clerics in terms of doing well on their role @HW)


On the second thought, no don't make guides (:D) fish that shhieyt, I enjoy seeing bo bo discussions , that's why I'm here (:>)

#28 kirinfang

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 11:17 AM

I take everything back about NA, last time I visited there was a month a go or more (oo;) , oh well at least the archer section on sea is kinda galing

#29 TetsuoRyuu

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 11:19 AM

Everything's nice in Cleric section of SEA until Shiba quitted. (:D)

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 11:22 AM

dunno-lah , I wasn't even a pally up until job change

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 11:24 AM

Well at least Cleric section gets some fangirl attention (:D)

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 12:45 PM

View PostTetsuoRyuu, on 21 March 2013 - 10:24 AM, said:

At this cap, no, just no. <img data-cke-saved-src="http://forum.cherryc...t/biglaugh.gif" src="http://forum.cherryc...t/biglaugh.gif" class="bbc_emoticon" alt="(<img data-cke-saved-src=" http:="" forum.cherrycredits.com="" public="" style_emoticons="" default="" biggrin.png'="">)' /> What's there to tank? None.

IDK, GDN hardcore ? I told you I am not using this on raid parties so i am not sure if kickadin is capable of tanking the whole nest (tongueout)

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 03:05 PM

View Postkenth27v, on 21 March 2013 - 10:22 AM, said:

. But in a RAID PARTY, pure TANK Guardian is the best,
brb..crying in the corner...
seriously?pure tank build?max all counter no smite no relic max DP max auto/aerial block?best at RAID????.... (clap)
oh i have 30second SOF..lets use it and spam my maxed counter under BT..perma SOF all the way aww...yes pure tank guardian is the best for any raid (;]) (up)

otp:my point is,since TS asking a "DPS" build that optimal for gdn..i am just saying that being kickadin is a bad choice for gdn thats all

#34 LexAzrael

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 04:47 PM

View Postkenth27v, on 21 March 2013 - 10:22 AM, said:

Kickadin is good. But in a RAID PARTY, pure TANK Guardian is the best, sacrificing kicks and kick plates.
Oh no. Not even in SDN is this appropriate nowadays. As Tetsuo said, There's nothing to tank these days.

#35 Dababom

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 07:19 PM

wew people (tense)

what is the other skill in my skill build should i max if people arguing about maxing the hk and shield charge (sorry)

LA % on guardian sak since guardian force and jc are patk based damaged . So does maxing SH have more dmg ? i thought it was on matk n LA based dmg ? (T.T) (T.T)

Help me (sob) (sob)

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 07:27 PM

View PostDababom, on 21 March 2013 - 07:19 PM, said:

wew people (tense)

what is the other skill in my skill build should i max if people arguing about maxing the hk and shield charge (sorry)

LA % on guardian sak since guardian force and jc are patk based damaged . So does maxing SH have more dmg ? i thought it was on matk n LA based dmg ? (T.T) (T.T)

Help me (sob) (sob)
If you wanna invest on Light Attack skills, then just go for Crusader. Just like you said, Justice Crash is PATK based. With the coming buffed up version of Guardian Force, It would then become a decent DPS skill + support skill(although in raids, that buff is still very minimal) So PATK is still the obvious choice for Guardians. Don't be easily convinced about some skills dealing monstrous damage because at the end of the day, it is still based on items of the player.
Shield Charge IMO does not really provide enough damage but if you insist, then you can.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 07:34 PM

View Posthazell2610, on 21 March 2013 - 03:05 PM, said:

brb..crying in the corner...
seriously?pure tank build?max all counter no smite no relic max DP max auto/aerial block?best at RAID????.... (clap)
oh i have 30second SOF..lets use it and spam my maxed counter under BT..perma SOF all the way aww...yes pure tank guardian is the best for any raid (;]) (up)

otp:my point is,since TS asking a "DPS" build that optimal for gdn..i am just saying that being kickadin is a bad choice for gdn thats all

wah this noob nver learn, have you seen gigantic bomber cooldown? compare it with JC please sir

shiat phy guardian say
"Whoa see? Auto block saved my life"
"Dude my JC totally didn't crit"
"yeah if my light suffix activates I could totally out DPS that crus"
"Guardian force benefits the team, unlike selfish JP stupid skill."
"HIAT HUAT HIAT HUAT HIAT HUAT BREAK HUAT HIAT HUAT"

Edit= Pot@ why is Shieyt censored =_=

Edited by kirinfang, 21 March 2013 - 07:34 PM.


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Posted 21 March 2013 - 07:42 PM

View PostLexAzrael, on 21 March 2013 - 07:27 PM, said:

If you wanna invest on Light Attack skills, then just go for Crusader. Just like you said, Justice Crash is PATK based. With the coming buffed up version of Guardian Force, It would then become a decent DPS skill + support skill(although in raids, that buff is still very minimal) So PATK is still the obvious choice for Guardians. Don't be easily convinced about some skills dealing monstrous damage because at the end of the day, it is still based on items of the player.
Shield Charge IMO does not really provide enough damage but if you insist, then you can.
oh another "if want light go crusader instead"statement...ok i give up..yes patk guardian is the best..

@rinfag
ako give up sir...w3w..shield charge 100k/hit sir..patk guardian is the best in raid..if you want light go crus instead dont go light aww..
brb packing go to NA forum..see ya w3w

Edited by hazell2610, 21 March 2013 - 07:44 PM.


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Posted 21 March 2013 - 07:48 PM

View Posthazell2610, on 21 March 2013 - 07:42 PM, said:

oh another "if want light go crusader instead"statement...ok i give up..yes patk guardian is the best..

@rinfag
ako give up sir...w3w..shield charge 100k/hit sir..patk guardian is the best in raid..if you want light go crus instead dont go light aww..
brb packing go to NA forum..see ya w3w

Like I'll be serious again, have any of you physical guardian seen charge bolt damage? Even if you don't have latk pot and have perf pot(which midgame should have with easy farming code meta-game =_=) it deals very very decent damage, please try it before you can bash, and please comment on my argument also don't just ignore it, anyone took bone crash into account?

hazzel did said the word RAID a lot of times.

I'm not even joking ,ugh urge to show my charge bolt damage is very high if you're showing off simple 170 kick damage not to be arrogant, but a simple matk crit build guardian with max CB would definitely out damage, why? I've seen a crusader with all perf pot(don't as me why) and it still deals hell lot, and again stressing out the word RAID

argument?
Charge bolt is raids
JC in raids
how kicks are sub-optimal in term of raids and you're wasting 2 slots which you can put heal CD plate, did you took that into consideration?

Please, give a good argument to my previous post and on the other thread before you bash on a viable build (imo)

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 07:54 PM

View Postkirinfang, on 21 March 2013 - 07:48 PM, said:

Like I'll be serious again, have any of you physical guardian seen charge bolt damage? Even if you don't have latk pot and have perf pot(which midgame should have with easy farming code meta-game =_=) it deals very very decent damage, please try it before you can bash, and please comment on my argument also don't just ignore it, anyone took bone crash into account?

hazzel did said the word RAID a lot of times.

I'm not even joking ,ugh urge to show my charge bolt damage is very high if you're showing off simple 170 kick damage not to be arrogant, but a simple matk crit build guardian with max CB would definitely out damage, why? I've seen a crusader with all perf pot(don't as me why) and it still deals hell lot, and again stressing out the word RAID

argument?
Charge bolt is raids
JC in raids
how kicks are sub-optimal in term of raids and you're wasting 2 slots which you can put heal CD plate, did you took that into consideration?

Please, give a good argument to my previous post and on the other thread before you bash on a viable build (imo)
No LATK pots, low MATK, Level 1 CB and my CB still does decent damage.