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[Guide] Kali Basics (Screamer And Dancer)


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#1 Deztrozar

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 06:28 PM

Lalalala~

Edited by Deztrozar, 03 August 2013 - 09:47 AM.


#2 _iMarx_

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 08:10 PM

Good Job (:>)  I'll be lookin forward for Dancer and her sub-classes (:])

#3 Deztrozar

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 09:20 PM

View Post_iMarx_, on 28 March 2013 - 08:10 PM, said:

Good Job (:>)  I'll be lookin forward for Dancer and her sub-classes (:])

Tnx. Oh yeah, about dancer, don't you think that all her skills will cause 2 mountains to jiggle too quickly? (lol)

#4 dothack3r

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 09:35 PM

View PostDeztrozar, on 28 March 2013 - 09:20 PM, said:

Tnx. Oh yeah, about dancer, don't you think that all her skills will cause 2 mountains to jiggle too quickly? (lol)

idk what u talking about~ enlighten me please~ (:>) (:>)

good job making early guide~ will wait for this~

View PostDeztrozar, on 28 March 2013 - 06:28 PM, said:


Dancer: Music please!
a. What is a Dancer?
b. Dancer's skills
c. Dancer's usage of them skills
d. Tier 2 jobs  
i. Spirit Dancer
ii. Blade Dancer
e. Tips on using these boing boings skills in pvp & pve? (lol)

(:>)

#5 NekoKun

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 10:30 PM

eh... here is what i think (since i'm doing a pvp/pve bd dancer guide as well, but..):

on kali part:

Despair needle: most dancers leaves it at 1 or dont even get it, while screamers tend to "max it" alongside with \/

Negative Ghost: yet i've never saw a dancer using this skill, only recomended to screamers =/

spirit blow: this is prob the most usefull skill on kali tree, but i dont recomend to max it, since it's only used for SA. best left at lvl 6 or 11

i dont know anything about screamers but i will keep a look on what you will write on the dancer part, ifyouknowwhatimean (:>)

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 10:50 PM

View PostDeztrozar, on 28 March 2013 - 09:20 PM, said:

Tnx. Oh yeah, about dancer, don't you think that all her skills will cause 2 mountains to jiggle too quickly? (lol)
hue hue hue hue (lol)  oh what are u talkin about ...Good Job now keep makin em mountains jiggle erm i meant the Dancer Guide (lol)

Edited by _iMarx_, 28 March 2013 - 10:50 PM.


#7 Deztrozar

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:23 PM

View Postdothack3r, on 28 March 2013 - 09:35 PM, said:

idk what u talking about~ enlighten me please~ (:>) (:>) good job making early guide~ will wait for this~ (:>)

(lol)

View PostNekoKun, on 28 March 2013 - 10:30 PM, said:

eh... here is what i think (since i'm doing a pvp/pve bd dancer guide as well, but..): on kali part: Despair needle: most dancers leaves it at 1 or dont even get it, while screamers tend to "max it" alongside with \/ Negative Ghost: yet i've never saw a dancer using this skill, only recomended to screamers =/ spirit blow: this is prob the most usefull skill on kali tree, but i dont recomend to max it, since it's only used for SA. best left at lvl 6 or 11 i dont know anything about screamers but i will keep a look on what you will write on the dancer part, ifyouknowwhatimean (:>)

Anyways, the Despair Needle is mostly for downed opponents in PVP or small mobs in PVE. It has very small damage growth from 1-11 but great constant damage value from lvl 12-16. But that is if you're willing to spend precious sps to level it to 16.

And for Negative ghost, dancers mostly skip this since the actual skill trees of dancers require A LOT, I mean, A LOT of sp just to get them available. So they just limit themselves to 45 sp on Kali,

And for Spirit Blow Dancers often leave them at 1 or max it since they need a lot of SA breaking. They dont have a lot of sa breaking skill so.... (bow)


View Post_iMarx_, on 28 March 2013 - 10:50 PM, said:

hue hue hue hue (lol) oh what are u talkin about ...Good Job now keep makin em mountains jiggle erm i meant the Dancer Guide (lol)

I hope they don't nerf them jigglies Kalis soon. (:>)

#8 fourrier

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 12:19 AM

Despair needle isn't as effective as poison missile for locking the downed enemy right?

#9 Deztrozar

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 12:31 AM

View Postfourrier, on 29 March 2013 - 12:19 AM, said:

Despair needle isn't as effective as poison missile for locking the downed enemy right?

Ya, but still, its the only one Kali's got XD. And it lasts only for 5 secs, and it continuously attacks the enemy but not as fast and effective as PM. (except for resent area, which is worse and Sufi dancer.)

Edited by Deztrozar, 29 March 2013 - 03:46 PM.


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 12:10 PM

i see so many flaws... GL...

#11 Deztrozar

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 01:47 PM

View PostVaahneon, on 29 March 2013 - 12:10 PM, said:

i see so many flaws... GL...

(tongueout)  Ill try to fix those. And please name them flaws of mine. And sorry, I'm kinda new at making guides.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 03:32 PM

Hi Deztrozar, not to judge but just for information. (;])

As i recall, negetive ghost do not work on player in pvp. They will have the "???" symbol after being hit but they still can use skill/atk like normal. Good for mob though~

AS for despair needle, it is a weak version of Poison.M from Sorc. Even at lv11, it doesn't do very good dmg as lv11 poison and it can't even hold enemy on ground. Not like poison can shoot very far and have high para. This needle have fixed range and the enemy will wake up if you do not combo it with atk. DO NOT EXPECT IT TO WORK LIKE POISON. I guess copy version is alot weaker.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 03:39 PM

and u might add that not just Chain Claw~  Revenge hand, Blitz Claw also have lowered CD (<3)  every lv6, 11 and 16~ =3

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 03:44 PM

View Postyintian, on 29 March 2013 - 03:32 PM, said:

Hi Deztrozar, not to judge but just for information. (;])

As i recall, negetive ghost do not work on player in pvp. They will have the "???" symbol after being hit but they still can use skill/atk like normal. Good for mob though~

AS for despair needle, it is a weak version of Poison.M from Sorc. Even at lv11, it doesn't do very good dmg as lv11 poison and it can't even hold enemy on ground. Not like poison can shoot very far and have high para. This needle have fixed range and the enemy will wake up if you do not combo it with atk. DO NOT EXPECT IT TO WORK LIKE POISON. I guess copy version is alot weaker.

View Postyintian, on 29 March 2013 - 03:39 PM, said:

and u might add that not just Chain Claw~  Revenge hand, Blitz Claw also have lowered CD (<3)  every lv6, 11 and 16~ =3

Tnx for the note. I mixed Negative ghost's description with Soul Puppet, and kinda forgot to delete some parts. (tongueout)
Sorry bout that. Thanks for the note. Added.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 08:07 PM

I've been looking for a guide about kali

thanks for this!

#16 Sinfolion

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:05 PM

nice! (:])

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:37 PM

Just to clear some info:
  • Use the term "branded" instead of "imprinted" to conform with SEA's skill descriptions: http://dn.cherrycredits.com/kali/
  • 3rd hit of phantom claw ex = float target and 4th hit of phantom claw ex = knockdown target
  • The casting of Phantom's Avenger can easily be cancelled while Dragon's Soul grants an i-frame as the Kali kneels down to perform the summoning ritual. One doesn't pwn the other ultimate.
  • Dusk Hunter only shoots 1 Arrow.
good luck with your guide~ (:])

#18 OniiChan

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 10:15 PM

Screamer looks cool for me @.@

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 10:44 PM

(up) (:D) helps a lot

#20 Deztrozar

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:16 PM

View PostTimeFox, on 29 March 2013 - 09:37 PM, said:

Just to clear some info:
  • Use the term "branded" instead of "imprinted" to conform with SEA's skill descriptions: http://dn.cherrycredits.com/kali/
  • 3rd hit of phantom claw ex = float target and 4th hit of phantom claw ex = knockdown target
  • The casting of Phantom's Avenger can easily be cancelled while Dragon's Soul grants an i-frame as the Kali kneels down to perform the summoning ritual. One doesn't pwn the other ultimate.
  • Dusk Hunter only shoots 1 Arrow.
good luck with your guide~ (:])

Noted & added. Thanks. (;])