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[Guide]Beckoning The Tormented Souls From Beyond: A Pve Soul Eater Guide (Updating)


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#21 llRllAnime

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 11:13 AM

Can I ask if the critical for soul eater is important ??
What is the crit cap for a soul eater ??
Is final damage is important for soul eater ??
What is the recommended minimum final damage for soul eater ??
Sorry for asking too much ^_^

#22 LouiseBoom

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 01:20 PM

View PostllRllAnime, on 07 April 2013 - 11:13 AM, said:

Can I ask if the critical for soul eater is important ??
What is the crit cap for a soul eater ??
Is final damage is important for soul eater ??
What is the recommended minimum final damage for soul eater ??
Sorry for asking too much ^_^

Crit is always good for any class, well maybe Saint but some still want decent Crit

and yes Critical is good for Soul Eater

lvl 50 crit cap for any other class... 17800 critical

Final Damage? You can have 100% crit cap if you want if u have the money.... but if not, stick with Dark % to increase overall Damage

Recommend FD? lol 100% if you need around 1.2k FD, if you have the money that

#23 llRllAnime

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 02:44 PM

View PostLouiseBoom, on 07 April 2013 - 01:20 PM, said:

Crit is always good for any class, well maybe Saint but some still want decent Crit

and yes Critical is good for Soul Eater

lvl 50 crit cap for any other class... 17800 critical

Final Damage? You can have 100% crit cap if you want if u have the money.... but if not, stick with Dark % to increase overall Damage

Recommend FD? lol 100% if you need around 1.2k FD, if you have the money that
Thanks for answering (clap) (clap) (clap)

#24 TetsuoRyuu

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 05:32 PM

BTW, I can't seem to find Grudge Formation Skill Accessory in Item Production, is it Chaos Formation here in SEA?

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 06:24 PM

View PostTetsuoRyuu, on 07 April 2013 - 05:32 PM, said:

BTW, I can't seem to find Grudge Formation Skill Accessory in Item Production, is it Chaos Formation here in SEA?

nope. there is no grudge formation skill accessory apparently.

chaos formation is a lvl50 darksummoner skill.

#26 TetsuoRyuu

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 06:49 PM

This guide said that Skill Accessory is a must though.

Now I'm confused. (crazy)

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 09:12 PM

SE related question.

Can you control the targets that Soul Gate selects? From my experience, they seem to hit the first monster that they 'see' so to say (nearest).

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 09:29 PM

View PostTetsuoRyuu, on 07 April 2013 - 06:49 PM, said:

This guide said that Skill Accessory is a must though.

Now I'm confused. (crazy)
Sorry for that. I stand corrected. It hasn't come to my knowledge that there's no Grudge Formation Accessory. But if there is a possibility there will, it is still encouraged. Thanks for the info.


View PostXenocho, on 07 April 2013 - 09:12 PM, said:

SE related question.

Can you control the targets that Soul Gate selects? From my experience, they seem to hit the first monster that they 'see' so to say (nearest).
In some occasions, branded targets usually are the first to be targeted by Soul Gate if inflicted prior to it, same concept with paper spirit. But more often, they share the same mechanics with engineer's towers.

Edited by TimeFox, 08 April 2013 - 01:55 PM.


#29 markcover

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 09:34 PM

Really. this screamer char screw my head up. I try using puppet on 1 target then use AOE, it's seem like it's not double damage like i thought(may be the Aoe didnt hit or it was a non-crit hit).
But then i think about the 2nd thought. What if i use stigma of curse on 2 target(lv 6, 2 different target can be apply at the same time, already approved) then i use the puppet. SO which stat of monster the puppet take?

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 09:56 PM

How about an ability title that adds dark attack %, matk % and int? :) Or a recommended title for DS/SE

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 10:25 PM

View Postmarkcover, on 07 April 2013 - 09:34 PM, said:

Really. this screamer char screw my head up. I try using puppet on 1 target then use AOE, it's seem like it's not double damage like i thought(may be the Aoe didnt hit or it was a non-crit hit).
But then i think about the 2nd thought. What if i use stigma of curse on 2 target(lv 6, 2 different target can be apply at the same time, already approved) then i use the puppet. SO which stat of monster the puppet take?
Puppet doesn't make you deal double damage. It just increases the damage taken by linked targets by a certain percentage dependent on your Summon Puppet's level.

The puppet will carry both stats of the branded targets. To put it simply, the puppet holds the two souls of both targets but are considered as separate entities. But what if one of the linked targets has been killed? Will the puppet vanish? The puppet will only vanish when all branded targets have been eliminated or the duration of the puppet debuff has ended.


View PostCoricoponu, on 07 April 2013 - 09:56 PM, said:

How about an ability title that adds dark attack %, matk % and int? :) Or a recommended title for DS/SE
Best titles currently available that suit dark elemental users are Gigantomakia and Overcoming Limits as both give the highest dark attack% and is coupled with an added crit value.

Edited by TimeFox, 07 April 2013 - 10:50 PM.


#32 TimeFox

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 07:59 PM

Update: Added Titles

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 08:22 PM

View PostTimeFox, on 08 April 2013 - 07:59 PM, said:

Update: Added Titles

I know some of those title but would be nice if you included where to get it :D

Well not forcing u but... yeah... adding where to get or the stat they give might be useful info, but i love the overcoming title the best :D

#34 olanir

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 08:59 PM

gawd.. why still using this old japanese skill simulator..  
many of us cant understand this japanese.....
dafuq weebos everywhere. =_=

and not familair with kali skill icons yet
why cant just use new skill simulator? the english one (mad) (mad) (mad)

#35 TimeFox

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 10:31 PM

I'm sorry if you hate my preference on using the Japanese Skill Simulator. (shame) But it's not a big deal as it is just used as a visual representation for skill levels. If you're referring to THIS as the new skill simulator, there isn't much difference as the skill icons in there don't have titles/labels/captions on them. You still need to hover your cursor over them for the details so i didn't bother using it. But, if you're using a different skill simulator, may I request for the link so I can replace my current visual aid. Please and thank you~

And if you're not familiar with the Kali icons, cherry credits has provided us a Microsite.

Also, if you have something against weebos, don't take it against me. Just because I used a Jap simulator, it automatically labels me as a weebo. (tense)

Edited by TimeFox, 08 April 2013 - 10:36 PM.


#36 TetsuoRyuu

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 10:44 PM

This may be an unrelated question but still, any particular role for Soul Eaters in raids?

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 10:51 PM

Screamers, in general, are considered under support roles during raids (summon puppet and grudge formation).
Currently, soul eaters can only provide allies with crit rate and crit resistance increase at the moment in the form of soul scream.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 10:52 PM

View PostTetsuoRyuu, on 08 April 2013 - 10:44 PM, said:

This may be an unrelated question but still, any particular role for Soul Eaters in raids?

Being soul eater myself, guildmates find pleasure in killing nest mobs and raid(tried sdn and sdn hc), mini boss with Grudge formation(atk power increase + 100% SA break), Soul Scream(Crit resist% -), Genie(80% buff base stat), Phantom guard(mini Mana Shield), Curse stacking(Spectre of pain, spirit paper, soul gate, beast soul, dragon soul) Puppet(Increase dmg on imprint mob/boss) and maybe a few CC skills

as u can see so many debuff at her ****nal

but don't mind me that is just my 2 cent

Edited by LouiseBoom, 08 April 2013 - 10:54 PM.


#39 LouiseBoom

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 10:52 PM

Edit:

~Double post~

Edited by LouiseBoom, 08 April 2013 - 10:53 PM.


#40 TetsuoRyuu

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 10:57 PM

Eh? Curse status increases partymate's damage too? Or I got it wrong? (shame)

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BTW TimeFox, any update regarding the test of Puppet?