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Spreadsheet For General Skill Information In Dn (Including Sa & Sab)


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#21 gonzagirl

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 07:11 AM

very helpful! thanks for sharing!

#22 Frutaa

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 07:34 AM

Ice Sphere's SA couldn't be 200. Did you miswrite it as 200 instead of 1200 by any chance?

Edited by Frutaa, 11 September 2013 - 07:37 AM.


#23 Zacky95

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 08:09 AM

View PostFrutaa, on 11 September 2013 - 07:34 AM, said:

Ice Sphere's SA couldn't be 200. Did you miswrite it as 200 instead of 1200 by any chance?

Just tested it again

It has 600 super armor.

Freezing Swords EX also changed to 200 per hit with a total of 4 hits.

#24 DebbDebb

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 03:45 AM

how bout SA for ulti ?

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 11:12 AM

zack, noticed one on the FU side, Void Wave (Force Wave) SA break is listed as 400 and Spectrum Shower also has a base SA of 400 but VW cannot break SS superarmor.

#26 Frutaa

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 11:20 AM

3 hits of Freezing Swords couldn't break Spectrum Shower's SA either.

#27 Zacky95

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 06:40 PM

I'll check spectrum shower soon. Although 3 hits of freezing swords EX (not non-ex) should definitely be able to break it, because stomp can break it.

Started working on kali class now too. Finished all the super armor values for:

Kali (except the one skill where she summons ghosts/souls around her)
Screamer
Dancer
Dark Summoner
First 3 skills of Blade Dancer, Spirit Dancer and Soul Eater.

Going to start on SA break and the rest of the super armor on Sunday. Today I'm busy leveling my assassin in cDN.

Also, if anyone has the normal kali skill where she summons ghosts around her, can you check the super armor and SA break for me? If not, I'll just make a lvl 10 kali or something and check myself.

#28 gongtie1

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 04:53 PM

good effort in making the list. however sum parts are wrong i tink. I m pretty sure Eagle dive EX has higher SA as compared to normal ed. if i m not wrong it has twice or 1.5x the SA. And multishot can break maeltro howl EX at close range so the SA break is definitely higher than maeltro howl's SA. N Kickshot Ex takes like 3-4 hits to break spiral vortex so SA break shld be less than 225

Edited by gongtie1, 22 September 2013 - 04:55 PM.


#29 wolf999

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 05:10 PM

View Postgongtie1, on 22 September 2013 - 04:53 PM, said:

good effort in making the list. however sum parts are wrong i tink. I m pretty sure Eagle dive EX has higher SA as compared to normal ed. if i m not wrong it has twice or 1.5x the SA. And multishot can break maeltro howl EX at close range so the SA break is definitely higher than maeltro howl's SA. N Kickshot Ex takes like 3-4 hits to break spiral vortex so SA break shld be less than 225

nope... definitely same SA , only higher SA breaker value.
still can be broken with 1 hit of triple slash / normal grav ball


not sure about kick shot Ex, cant test since i dun have tempest anymore , but normal kick and shot / hit on that table is right i guess... 2 hits = broken charged shot / spiral vortex ... ( even tough i dunno about why 225 instead of 200 also )

Edited by wolf999, 22 September 2013 - 05:14 PM.


#30 gongtie1

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 05:13 PM

View Postwolf999, on 22 September 2013 - 05:10 PM, said:

nope... definitely same SA , only higher SA breaker value.
still can be broken with 1 hit of triple slash / normal grav ball
try using cyclone kick to break normal ED and ED ex. u will realise its different. Normal ed. 2x hits of cyclone kick. ED ex need 3hits

Edited by gongtie1, 22 September 2013 - 05:19 PM.


#31 wolf999

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 05:19 PM

View Postgongtie1, on 22 September 2013 - 05:13 PM, said:

try using cyclone kick to break normal ED and ED ex. u will realise its different

nowadays its too hard to cancel even normal ED by CK ~_~
what other skills that u find can cancel ED but not ED EX?

#32 gongtie1

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 05:22 PM

View Postwolf999, on 22 September 2013 - 05:19 PM, said:

nowadays its too hard to cancel even normal ED by CK ~_~
what other skills that u find can cancel ED but not ED EX?
eh. the SA is pretty close so i dont realli knw any skill that matches your description, but based on experience i deduce that ED ex has slightly higher SA since if i use ck too late i wun b able to break it.. u have a char in springwoods now right? if u wan, we can test it out, ED normal/EX with ck

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 05:26 PM

View Postgongtie1, on 22 September 2013 - 05:22 PM, said:

eh. the SA is pretty close so i dont realli knw any skill that matches your description, but based on experience i deduce that ED ex has slightly higher SA since if i use ck too late i wun b able to break it.. u have a char in springwoods now right? if u wan, we can test it out, ED normal/EX with ck

hmm yeah ... coz as far as i see , my ED EX still can be broken with just 1 slash of triple slash, and i think the 400 SA break /slash on that table is accurate CMIIW. yeah i have a lvl 56 WW now , can do the test right now if u want.

#34 gongtie1

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 05:30 PM

View Postwolf999, on 22 September 2013 - 05:26 PM, said:

hmm yeah ... coz as far as i see , my ED EX still can be broken with just 1 slash of triple slash, and i think the 400 SA break /slash on that table is accurate CMIIW. yeah i have a lvl 56 WW now , can do the test right now if u want.
now i gtg for dinner, mayb like 1.5hrs from now? ur nick is Engli? i pm u later when i online

#35 wolf999

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 05:30 PM

View Postgongtie1, on 22 September 2013 - 05:30 PM, said:

now i gtg for dinner, mayb like 1.5hrs from now? ur nick is Engli? i pm u later when i online

ah okok... i ady added ur IGN to my friendlist...

#36 Arigatou

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 10:18 PM

It's still 1 triple slash / 1 heavy slash. There's no difference in Eagle Dive ex SA at least to what I think. There's no difference in SA...

At least to my knowledge

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 10:19 PM

Multi post ~ Empty ~

Edited by Arigatou, 22 September 2013 - 10:19 PM.


#38 Zacky95

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 05:12 AM

Eagle Dive EX has the same super armor as normal one. Kick Shot (both ex and normal) does break spiral vortex with 2 hits (except the arrows at the end). Multishot doesn't break maelstrom howl, and there's no "maeltro howl ex" to my knowledge.

And please, don't ask how I came to the conclusion that kick shot has 225 SA Break per hit. It took me a whole friggin day to figure that out and I even had to get a 3rd person to help us.

Edited by Zacky95, 23 September 2013 - 05:15 AM.


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Posted 23 September 2013 - 07:41 AM

View PostZacky95, on 23 September 2013 - 05:12 AM, said:

Eagle Dive EX has the same super armor as normal one. Kick Shot (both ex and normal) does break spiral vortex with 2 hits (except the arrows at the end). Multishot doesn't break maelstrom howl, and there's no "maeltro howl ex" to my knowledge.

And please, don't ask how I came to the conclusion that kick shot has 225 SA Break per hit. It took me a whole friggin day to figure that out and I even had to get a 3rd person to help us.

yes i tested the ED EX with gongtie already. the SA is the same.
oh ic , ok i wont ask the test detail  about kns then lol.

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 09:18 AM

View PostFrutaa, on 14 September 2013 - 11:20 AM, said:

3 hits of Freezing Swords couldn't break Spectrum Shower's SA either.
im quite sure it can... I succesfully broke it utside of SS range which only gives me 2-3 hits.