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#1 Kouzaku

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Posted 01 January 2015 - 10:44 PM

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Since i am permanently quitting dragon nest, this guide would no longer be updated.

I will be making this a discussion/ Q&A thread for kalis instead. Thank you. (:])

Edited by Kouzaku, 24 September 2016 - 08:07 PM.


#2 Kouzaku

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Posted 01 January 2015 - 10:44 PM

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Edited by Kouzaku, 24 September 2016 - 08:03 PM.


#3 Kouzaku

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Posted 01 January 2015 - 10:44 PM

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Edited by Kouzaku, 24 September 2016 - 08:02 PM.


#4 Kouzaku

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Posted 01 January 2015 - 10:46 PM

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Edited by Kouzaku, 24 September 2016 - 08:00 PM.


#5 3xtFifty

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Posted 01 January 2015 - 10:48 PM

I support (rock) . Was waiting quite eagerly for one, since the time you pulled out all the DPS charts just to explain hybrid BD > Pure BD to me %20class=

Edit: What, 98m Praetor EX, just that final hit? ._. and FM chakram on top of that? Any chance you can just state your patk (sorry). My BD has never ever hit above 5M in a single hit (oo;)

Edit no.2: Btw just to confirm, this guide is for both dancers right? Does it include Screamers? Since you did not explicitly specify. Im referring to the title btw.

Edited by 3xtFifty, 01 January 2015 - 11:09 PM.


#6 Kouzaku

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Posted 01 January 2015 - 11:05 PM

View Post3xtFifty, on 01 January 2015 - 10:48 PM, said:

I support (rock) . Was waiting quite eagerly for one, since the time you pulled out all the DPS charts just to explain hybrid BD > Pure BD to me %20class=

Edit: What, 98m Praetor EX, just that final hit? ._. and FM chakram on top of that? Any chance you can just state your patk (sorry). My BD has never ever hit above 5M in a single hit (oo;)

thanks! (:])  Using FM chakram, i have 60k pattack here i think, i have a light ECJ equipped.

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Posted 01 January 2015 - 11:07 PM

View PostKouzaku, on 01 January 2015 - 11:05 PM, said:



thanks! (:])  Using FM chakram, i have 60k pattack here i think, i have a light ECJ equipped.
Oh ic, was wondering why you werent using your DDN L for this. And i edited my previous post, u might want to read it again xD

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Posted 01 January 2015 - 11:11 PM

praetor EX is a very power full skill ,Also in pvp it Deals sometimes 70k damage lol

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Posted 01 January 2015 - 11:12 PM

View Post3xtFifty, on 01 January 2015 - 10:48 PM, said:


Edit no.2: Btw just to confirm, this guide is for both dancers right? Does it include Screamers? Since you did not explicitly specify. Im referring to the title btw.

Only for dancers! Since razorfan and chev already has one for SE, i'll leave SE guide to them (:])

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Posted 01 January 2015 - 11:13 PM

View PostDaeven, on 01 January 2015 - 11:11 PM, said:

praetor EX is a very power full skill ,Also in pvp it Deals sometimes 70k damage lol
NO WAY THAT HAPPENED. Srsly 70k in pvp is literally a nuke, when a kali only has 96k hp. Ofc i havent ate a Praetor EX so i wouldnt jnow but if you compare it with hurricange gust ex that deals only like 30-40k hp in pvp... I'll be crying for nerfs if thats really the case >_>

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Posted 01 January 2015 - 11:19 PM

View PostKouzaku, on 01 January 2015 - 11:12 PM, said:



Only for dancers! Since razorfan and chev already has one for SE, i'll leave SE guide to them (:])
Well i expect you will only be 30% finished by the end of the day, exactly what happened when i started my pvp guide xD. So all i can say is grab some coffee, and redbull and good luck :D

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Posted 01 January 2015 - 11:54 PM

gl with the guide! and wow on the praetor xD thats not bad damage at all...

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 12:06 AM

View Post3xtFifty, on 01 January 2015 - 11:19 PM, said:

Well i expect you will only be 30% finished by the end of the day, exactly what happened when i started my pvp guide xD. So all i can say is grab some coffee, and redbull and good luck :D

I will, and we're still celebrating our new year's eve today because i'm not feeling well yesterday. (clap)  I hope i can finish the blade dancer's section by tonight tho

View PostRazorFan, on 01 January 2015 - 11:54 PM, said:

gl with the guide! and wow on the praetor xD thats not bad damage at all...

My dancer is totally left behind in terms of gears. (mad)  I spent it all on my SE (clap)

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 12:17 AM

Just curious, why is your tumble level 1? @_@ i would have expected AE and dummy ghost to be at lvl 1 instead, while tumble is maxed, since AE and dummy ghost can only activate once you are hit/lifted, which is something nobody wants to do.

Edited by 3xtFifty, 02 January 2015 - 12:19 AM.


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Posted 02 January 2015 - 12:20 AM

View Post3xtFifty, on 02 January 2015 - 12:17 AM, said:

Just curious, why is your tumble level 1? @_@ i would have expected AE and dummy ghost to be at lvl 1 instead, while tumble is maxed, since AE and dummy ghost can only activate once you are hit/lifted, which is something nobody wants to do.

oh dmn! i uploaded the wrong one! (oo)

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 12:21 AM

View PostKouzaku, on 02 January 2015 - 12:20 AM, said:



oh dmn! i uploaded the wrong one! (oo)

O_O edit it nao XD

Edited by 3xtFifty, 02 January 2015 - 12:21 AM.


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Posted 02 January 2015 - 12:30 AM

Just a small question, I know SE have superior dps compare to dancer. However in light pt, how about the dps between light dancer and SE.

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 12:37 AM

View PostFirePhoenix, on 02 January 2015 - 12:30 AM, said:

Just a small question, I know SE have superior dps compare to dancer. However in light pt, how about the dps between light dancer and SE.

In a proper light party set-up (using dancer) vs. a proper dark party set-up (using SE), light dancer's dps definitely higher, the gap widens if both dancer and SE are in the same pt since dancer will benefit from all the debuffs SE has. It's just my observation though since my dancer runs w/ an SE on BDN (yes, 2 kalis).

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 01:13 AM

View PostKouzaku, on 02 January 2015 - 12:37 AM, said:

In a proper light party set-up (using dancer) vs. a proper dark party set-up (using SE), light dancer's dps definitely higher, the gap widens if both dancer and SE are in the same pt since dancer will benefit from all the debuffs SE has. It's just my observation though since my dancer runs w/ an SE on BDN (yes, 2 kalis).

yea this is true for sure. light is the superior race now :<

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 01:27 AM

View PostRazorFan, on 02 January 2015 - 01:13 AM, said:

yea this is true for sure. light is the superior race now :<
I guess theres hope for dancers in 80cap then, even if the screamer revamp arrives (clap) . But thats provided we get an ele conver jade, which i dont have at the moment (T.T)