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#41 Strela

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Posted 08 November 2015 - 06:40 PM

okay I might be a slowpoke but in case you still mistook something:
Piercing Spike magic spear will deal more damage if it detonated by PB instead of letting them detonated by their own. The difference is huge, it's like between "lol kitten scratch" and "Mike Tyson hit mah face"

Also like Vaporizer said, it is worth to get CD plate more for most lancea's skill due to EP, however Piercing Spike is an exception, get DMG. Piercing Spike damage comes from PB after all

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Posted 09 November 2015 - 01:38 PM

View PostYuenAi, on 08 November 2015 - 01:31 PM, said:

~ All buffs will be reduced to only Lv1 but effect is up to max level now and +2 skill accessories(EP max is Lv5 = 55%, +2 which is Lv7 = 65%) which costs 10SP in T5/3r
lol thank God i tot reduced to lv1 even the dmg growth/%
~ All our "maker" skills are self buffs now.
doenst affect us in a bad way, rite?
~ Harmonize is different. Instead of balancing all our stats, it gives +15% movement and attack speed(I think) with a duration of 300s
so its still party buff, but the baransing effect removed? n replaced w 5min sb?
~ When you change to SB, ALL your skills will turn to Magical attack
@@ even flurry (patk) tree? gosh haha  
~ Using Spring Haze opens up our EXi which is Dent Blows EXi. It doesn't share CD with normal Dent blows so we can have 4 afterimage then use Arcane Focus (love)

(mad)show meh the vids (mad) *hyped*


View PostStrela, on 08 November 2015 - 06:40 PM, said:

okay I might be a slowpoke but in case you still mistook something:
Piercing Spike magic spear will deal more damage if it detonated by PB instead of letting them detonated by their own. The difference is huge, it's like between "lol kitten scratch" and "Mike Tyson hit mah face"

Also like Vaporizer said, it is worth to get CD plate more for most lancea's skill due to EP, however Piercing Spike is an exception, get DMG. Piercing Spike damage comes from PB after all
the question answered but thanks c:
but wait, the dmg plate for piercing spike stack with the explosion (EX) or only the throw?

i tot its only for the throwing part @@ cmiiw.

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Posted 09 November 2015 - 01:50 PM

View PostFiryQueen, on 09 November 2015 - 01:38 PM, said:

~ All buffs will be reduced to only Lv1 but effect is up to max level now and +2 skill accessories(EP max is Lv5 = 55%, +2 which is Lv7 = 65%) which costs 10SP in T5/3r
lol thank God i tot reduced to lv1 even the dmg growth/%
~ All our "maker" skills are self buffs now.
doenst affect us in a bad way, rite?
~ Harmonize is different. Instead of balancing all our stats, it gives +15% movement and attack speed(I think) with a duration of 300s
so its still party buff, but the baransing effect removed? n replaced w 5min sb?
~ When you change to SB, ALL your skills will turn to Magical attack
@@ even flurry (patk) tree? gosh haha  
~ Using Spring Haze opens up our EXi which is Dent Blows EXi. It doesn't share CD with normal Dent blows so we can have 4 afterimage then use Arcane Focus (love)
(mad)show meh the vids (mad) *hyped*
#2 Well, it just hindered our supporting capabilities more by being selfish (:D) though I just hope they change the area buff to a normal buff.
#3 Yes but minus the -CD (:])
#4 Yes, but not sure if it's similar to having the old Magical Breeze where attacks become magical but still use physical attack for calculations.
#5


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Posted 09 November 2015 - 03:53 PM

View PostFiryQueen, on 09 November 2015 - 01:38 PM, said:

the question answered but thanks c:
but wait, the dmg plate for piercing spike stack with the explosion (EX) or only the throw?

i tot its only for the throwing part @@ cmiiw.

it does, in fact it is mandatory in order to boost the explosion damage. I tried to test run the TKN Hell (poor gardener, he always became guinea piggu) with only Berlin spear and no secondary so no offensive skill jade:

without plate erratic power on:
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without plate, erratic power + scar maker:
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with plate, erratic power only:

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sorry no pic with plate, erratic power, and scar maker cuz it's kinda hard to SS it (shame)

Edited by Strela, 09 November 2015 - 03:54 PM.


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Posted 14 November 2015 - 02:54 AM

regarding changes in cap90, that once we're sb, all skills are matk based, that means flury tree, patk becomes matk,
1. but does it becomes light as well (as sb tree?) ?

let say i have some extra sp and wanna invest in flury tree, 2. which skill should i include in burst/dps rotation? as atm im using pure sb tree :'v so idk which flury skill 'hurts' haha

Edited by FiryQueen, 14 November 2015 - 02:56 AM.


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Posted 14 November 2015 - 07:33 AM

View PostFiryQueen, on 14 November 2015 - 02:54 AM, said:

regarding changes in cap90, that once we're sb, all skills are matk based, that means flury tree, patk becomes matk,
1. but does it becomes light as well (as sb tree?) ?

let say i have some extra sp and wanna invest in flury tree, 2. which skill should i include in burst/dps rotation? as atm im using pure sb tree :'v so idk which flury skill 'hurts' haha
#1 Nope, Neutral skills retain their.. well... neutrality (:D)
#2 I built mine with max Lollipop Chups. I think that's the only Flurry skill worth getting as an SB since other skills either aren't worth to level or have long animation. Spinning Swing is good I think to have but needs AS plate to make it effective.

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Posted 15 November 2015 - 11:11 AM

Sting Breezer's 90 Skill Plate?
Since Harmonize is now different hence this plate is no longer worth.

Still,
Poking Beehive(CD)
Piercing Spike(DMG)
?

The extra 2 plate is ? (:])

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Posted 15 November 2015 - 11:54 AM

View PostShockingXD, on 15 November 2015 - 11:11 AM, said:

Sting Breezer's 90 Skill Plate?
Since Harmonize is now different hence this plate is no longer worth.

Still,
Poking Beehive(CD)
Piercing Spike(DMG)
?

The extra 2 plate is ? (:])
Lolippop Chups CD. It's a good skill to spam. Dent Blow DMG.

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Posted 15 November 2015 - 02:05 PM

lolipup chups seems like the only skill in flury tree that is pretteh :'v maybe worth to take
hue i played sb cuz all skill pretty lights.


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Posted 15 November 2015 - 04:33 PM

View PostFiryQueen, on 15 November 2015 - 02:05 PM, said:

lolipup chups seems like the only skill in flury tree that is pretteh :'v maybe worth to take
hue i played sb cuz all skill pretty lights.

yes. it is the only skill in the flurry tree worth the points. fast casting plus i-frame with good SA break and damage. good for both pve and pvp. And also is spammable with CD plate.

same here. I played SB cuz of the pink waves. (lol)

But I want black-colored waves for my SB so it would match my scythe.

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Posted 16 November 2015 - 12:04 PM

Hm. About 90cap build, I was thinking of getting level 16 Shutter Bounce since the skill growth is kind of good and we will be using it a lot for its damage increase debuff.

What say you guys?

Edited by Vaporizer, 16 November 2015 - 12:05 PM.


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Posted 16 November 2015 - 06:00 PM

View PostVaporizer, on 16 November 2015 - 12:04 PM, said:

Hm. About 90cap build, I was thinking of getting level 16 Shutter Bounce since the skill growth is kind of good and we will be using it a lot for its damage increase debuff.

What say you guys?

i ddnt play flury (or have any flury tree) but it seems more towards pvp(?). idk but some pvp-flury i inspected have either/both shutter bounce +1 plate, and cd/dmg(forgot which) plate.

but lets jsut assume i have extra sp enough to max either one, lolipop vs shutter, which one?



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skill plates,
after revising for cap90,
as harmo plate i think... kinda useless(?)..

so..(well PS is a must since its our main dish haha)
dentblow vs PB vs spearhand D:

wait, is arcane (cd/buff plate) still relevant in t5/cap90?

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Posted 16 November 2015 - 06:34 PM

View PostVaporizer, on 16 November 2015 - 12:04 PM, said:

Hm. About 90cap build, I was thinking of getting level 16 Shutter Bounce since the skill growth is kind of good and we will be using it a lot for its damage increase debuff.

What say you guys?

That's good too.

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Posted 16 November 2015 - 07:27 PM

View PostFiryQueen, on 16 November 2015 - 06:00 PM, said:

i ddnt play flury (or have any flury tree) but it seems more towards pvp(?). idk but some pvp-flury i inspected have either/both shutter bounce +1 plate, and cd/dmg(forgot which) plate.

but lets jsut assume i have extra sp enough to max either one, lolipop vs shutter, which one?



------------------------
skill plates,
after revising for cap90,
as harmo plate i think... kinda useless(?)..

so..(well PS is a must since its our main dish haha)
dentblow vs PB vs spearhand D:

wait, is arcane (cd/buff plate) still relevant in t5/cap90?

Well, I can take both at high levels, but that means leaving Hovering Blade at level 1 though (you can take first EX with the skill at level 1 in 90cap).

I'd say go Dent Blow since if it affects EXi it would be really helpful. I thought Poking Beehive CD is a required plate though?

Edited by Vaporizer, 16 November 2015 - 07:28 PM.


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Posted 16 November 2015 - 07:47 PM

View PostVaporizer, on 16 November 2015 - 07:27 PM, said:

I thought Poking Beehive CD is a required plate though?

Yep, I think it still is.

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Posted 17 November 2015 - 12:17 AM

It was already 1 week since I didn't stop using bird and searching for Piercing Spike + Spear Hand dmg plates but no hope... I tried to farm Fragment to exchange lv 24 pouches but still didn't get them. I missed those days when people competed to play Lencea, when TH was full of Lencea's stuffs....
Is there anyone has it? Can use sell it for me? Ty i'm from Westwood

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Posted 17 November 2015 - 12:54 AM

View PostRakkus, on 17 November 2015 - 12:17 AM, said:



idk why rightnow hard to find lancea's plate. i even got harmo plate after 2months getting serious w lancea.. while peircing spike i jsut got 2 days ago.. 4k... lucky cuz i kinda sticked my face to th guy everytime login in. harmo plate? pfft 'had' to buy at 9k price.

gl to u. btw theres a lancea selling lancea's plate (called herself lancea supplier) but she mostly selling flury/pvp plates. forgot her ign tho. shes in ch7 if goddess with u, may ur desired plates with her.

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Posted 17 November 2015 - 08:22 AM

I see. It seems a bit hopeful then. Thank you for the info :D

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Posted 17 November 2015 - 09:11 AM

View PostRakkus, on 17 November 2015 - 12:17 AM, said:

It was already 1 week since I didn't stop using bird and searching for Piercing Spike + Spear Hand dmg plates but no hope... I tried to farm Fragment to exchange lv 24 pouches but still didn't get them. I missed those days when people competed to play Lencea, when TH was full of Lencea's stuffs....
Is there anyone has it? Can use sell it for me? Ty i'm from Westwood
I have a spear hand dmg plate if you want it.

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Posted 17 November 2015 - 11:54 AM

View PostWitWiwWako2, on 17 November 2015 - 09:11 AM, said:

I have a spear hand dmg plate if you want it.
Sure, bro. I've been looking for it since then >.<. Can you put them on TH at around 6pm? Or mail me: Shirajishi.
Thank you :D