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Nindja's [95-Cap Pve Build] Destroyer/barbarian->Terminator/berserker


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#21 Nindja

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 03:07 AM

Highlander is still good to cast 3 Enchanted Circle swings, I will show some videos later.

#22 OPLAZ

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 03:20 AM

yeah maybe its good, im thinking about it again, but some ppl dont like barbarian anymore, i think he is strong

#23 Moskovit

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 08:17 AM

None of the images in the guide available. Please correct.

#24 OPLAZ

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 04:49 PM

View PostMoskovit, on 08 September 2016 - 08:17 AM, said:

None of the images in the guide available. Please correct.
images working very good here

#25 71nku92

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Posted 11 September 2016 - 09:47 AM

Is it weird that I miss the old barb? Now it kind of became a safe class for me, unlike the old one where we oscillate between life and death. That used to be so much fun for me.

#26 Nindja

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 07:13 AM

The only annoying part of me as Barb is the lack of range, super armor and using the dam dash kick.

#27 DnLover90

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 12:11 PM

Hi, good day Nindja, i'm destroyer lover too. i have query abt the class mastery II, since it mentioned "health",
do it convert purely from VIT or from both VIT and HP?
If purely VIT, have u tested the attack conversion rate from VIT? Is it 0.75/0.5/0.25?

Current AGI conversion rate is 0.25.
If VIT conversion is 0.75/0.5, then it is worthy to sacrifice some crit for more attk (may or may not), def, and hp.

Thanks in advance. =)

#28 Nindja

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Posted 15 September 2016 - 12:03 AM

Battle howl gonna increase your HP with ~64.5 hp for every 1vit, so if you have 10k vit, that's 645k hp more.
About Vit conversion increase is around is like you see 50% from your 1vit, so 0.5.
So you are pretty much getting dmg + high hp stacking Vit.

Current 93lv critical cap is hard to reach, so I suggest to stick on increasing your critical and also tankiness - Now still depends what gears are you wearing.  Let's say 90lv + gears with Agi + Vitality are good option to help you out.
Or depends what kind of place are you going to use it mostly, If the raid/nests party has genie, and archer buff you will reach easily critical cap. Best way to increase your dmg is by stacking STR/VIT, but I wouldn't go for that If you can't reach critical cap even with all buffs around.

#29 DnLover90

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Posted 15 September 2016 - 03:04 PM

Nindja, u r right, i done my test yesterday, the conversion from VIT is 0.5.
Second test, I switch all my secondary jades from wind to life, both high grade, max stat. Results drop in attk (-0.5k) and crit (74% to 57%), then increase abt 10k def and 1m HP after buff.
U r right again, 93 crit is hard to cap, with VIT setup, running 90 nest output abt the same, yet in 93 nest is a pain, rarely have crit even with 57%. what a waste of 235% crit damage.
At the end, i stick back to STR AGI build, wind jade give extra 4% each, wind plate 20%, stacking agi even with conversion 0.25, it still give slightly higher attk and i really cant let go the crit, heavily affect my output. And FYI the life jade give less stat point; none extra % on VIT and the health plate only give extra 7%. what a pain to stack VIT.

#30 Innocentuz

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Posted 16 September 2016 - 04:59 AM

Nini I saw your barb video, nice song usage btw, I finally found a Shibayan album that I like.
If your sub with 232k town physical attack can do that much, I imagine your main can clear it much faster.

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Posted 29 September 2016 - 09:01 PM

Pinning, keep up the good work!

#32 OPLAZ

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 05:59 AM

btw is it worth to get VIT/ICE technique earring on barb for more ice dmg, or just use STR

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 06:05 AM

View PostOPLAZ, on 04 October 2016 - 05:59 AM, said:

btw is it worth to get VIT/ICE technique earring on barb for more ice dmg, or just use STR

Str earrings are better

#34 Nindja

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 11:17 PM

Since we are getting new content IDN HC, I got some news:
Important change: If you are planning to run IDN HC
- Destroyers: Better swap Havoc howl for Devitalizing to remove berserk status on 2nd boss.
- Barbarians: Better swap Flying swing for Devitalizing to remove berserk status on 2nd boss. There is a option to take out Gigantic bomb or lower demo fist to lv1, but that's something I will update next time.

#35 REALiesDR

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 03:26 PM

thanks for this guide. i`m gonna create destroyer 4 the 1st time.

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Posted 20 February 2017 - 07:06 PM

Hi! I'm new to dragon nest and took up mercenary for my first character. Was wondering which class is better now? Destroyer or Barbarian and why?

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Posted 21 February 2017 - 12:51 AM

View PostAllen232, on 20 February 2017 - 07:06 PM, said:

Hi! I'm new to dragon nest and took up mercenary for my first character. Was wondering which class is better now? Destroyer or Barbarian and why?

Destroyer is a tank, Barbarian is a DPS. Completely different classes.

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 01:06 AM

There isn't big dmg gap between two classes, but as the person, ^MuchAshe said destroyer is mainly used as a tank and barbarian DPS.
Also, i would recommend you to try first destroyer since is more newbie friendly, easier to gear and more welcomed in PVE.
As for PVP, both classes are fine, you just need a lot of practice.

#39 Allen232

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Posted 24 February 2017 - 03:04 PM

Thanks! What stats should I go for destroyer and barbarian for reference?

#40 Nindja

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Posted 26 February 2017 - 01:53 AM

STR+Vit