RancorSnp, on 24 August 2016 - 07:31 PM, said:
Please, read what you said again and think what you are talking about.
You are pretty much saying "It doesn't matter what scientists say, everyone should be able to say what they think"
Yes, everyone can voice their opinion on any topic, which I even did. Thing is LISTENING to anyone other than an expert of said thing, is plain stupid.
(and the forums aren't shared. Going though the DN EU link, you will end up in a view of DN EU section ONLY. Which is a good thing.)
As for other points you brought up, I won't even comment on them. But will kindly ask you to cease the unnecessary hostility.
The last 2 points weren't even hostile, they were discussing the topic.
I'm not saying listen to general plebs, I'm saying people who have sound reasoning should not be disregarded, why don't you read that again instead
Also just because someone is geared doesn't always mean they know everything and there is no knowledge about that class that is hidden to them, everyone can learn from others at least expected moments, so yeah.
All I'm trying to say is gears don't make someone expert, that's simple to understand, isn't it? Not all scientists are pros eh? Not everyone who writes about the effects of food on body building is an expert body builder themself. (An example, don't kill me for it k)
I do fail to see the hostility except the very first post anyway. I just replied about not caring for a person's status when you gave me a very nicely-worded warning that I was being hostile to a mod.
Pawhammer did state that in EU discussions people say that RDNL is way better than mix kornu and now here you say its a good thing you can only see your own forums. Well I can see why you're against taking into consideration all the items available in game and taking into consideration the thoughts of non-EU people about options available for gearing. Quite funny if I say so.
PawHammer, on 24 August 2016 - 06:04 PM, said:
For DPS classes, mixing gear would not work that well. I've seen this topic arise several time in DNEU forums, and the reply has always been clear: except for defence, RDNL (upgraded to +12 or so) is way better than kornu at the same enhancement level because of the extra stats it gives. I mean, it is possible for you to stack FD with your current plan, but it relies heavily on your base damage for the calculations:
-If the % increase you get from FD is higher than the % attack you lose from not going full RDNL, use your plan (but obviously go RDNL weapons + upper body, Kornu U helm and lower body and Kornu E for gloves and shoes, RDNL accessories, so as to get the highest base attack for your % extra damage).
-If the % increase you get from FD is lower, do not do it. It's generally better (as a dps) to have higher attacking stats than just FD (which you can get anyway from either cash gear or cheap attack/concentration heraldries).
zuyi, on 24 August 2016 - 06:16 PM, said:
DNEU forumers do not take into account every possiblity then. This entirely depends on the level of variant jade. With a +10 variant jade, players would have almost the same p-atk/m-atk as full rdnl, the difference being les than 1k in most cases. I've done the sim for my +13 RDNL Sniper with 6.7k agi on plates and 6k+ agi on talis equipping genesis rings, pretty highly geared, and the difference comes out to be only 800 P-Atk less. And sniper is a class with huge stat/patk multipliers.
Another thing to note, while for Int/Str classes the difference won't be as much, Agi base classes gain a lot more crit damage with mixed build compared to full RDNL because each jade gives crit damage and a +10 variant gives 25k crit damage.
Basically, mixed set can give way better total damage output, depending entirely on what level your variant dragon jade is.
If you want to see the sim:
PawHammer, on 24 August 2016 - 06:46 PM, said:
Okay, I made the simulations both at level 12 enhancement and level 13 enhancement and the results are surprising:
So yes, it seems to work really well. However, relies on the helmet jade to be on a high level and to have a limitation heraldry (mixed set has higher crit damage overall and gets a bigger boost from that), but the drop in attack is not that big of an issue. So yes, at least for sniper, it works.
Had a good sound debate in just 3 simple posts without anyone getting their panties up in a bunch or disrespecting each other personally, and all this for AGI based classes, already discussed before this thread was made. Players from both EU and SEA participating.
P.S: I do believe "DNEU Forumers" and "Pawhammer" are different entities so in case anyone wants to point that out, I still didn't disrespect Pawhammer personally in the discussion hence I didn't say anything wrong in the above statement.
Edited by zuyi, 24 August 2016 - 07:50 PM.