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How's Flurry In Both Pvp And Pve?


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#1 Nsjn

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Posted 13 September 2016 - 01:43 AM

are they great in pvp? how can you compare them to other class?

#2 vangeodee

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Posted 13 September 2016 - 03:56 AM

I'll let you judge. Here's my Flurry with only 85k patk; the only thing I have that is worth mentioning is a +12 evolved nightmare spear, all else quite literally trash (i don't even have upper).

Comparing to other classes, as long as you can pull off red slash spinning cut more than 75% of the time, you will for sure out-dps any other dps class, even the awakened ones. (of the same gear level)

By the way, that's supposed to be 2 hits, i don't know where the other one went.
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Edited by vangeodee, 13 September 2016 - 03:57 AM.


#3 XaelCry

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Posted 13 September 2016 - 10:16 AM

PvP?
Flurry is like a glad but deal less damage than glad and doesnt have burst damage like line drive.
The only dealing dmg for them is Rough Sweep and Spinning Skewer to kill secure.
Other is pretty much fair dmg and you'll likely get your super armour crushed before doing some combos.
Compared to other class? They're pretty much good but still in lower bracket class for pvp, the bug worsened their stat.

#4 xEquation

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Posted 13 September 2016 - 03:34 PM

what we need is lower everyone's dmg to lancea lvl (clap)

#5 XxXh0lic

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Posted 13 September 2016 - 09:50 PM

She's only good against female classes that isn't Machina. She has mediocre damage, can't break sh*t and gets her sh*t easily broken.

#6 FirePhoenix

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 12:16 AM

In PvE, flurry is not bad even when compare to those awakening. Acro is supposed to be stronger than Flurry, but I still struggle reaching this DPS level as Tempest and WW.

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Edited by FirePhoenix, 14 September 2016 - 12:28 AM.


#7 vangeodee

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 04:39 AM

View PostFirePhoenix, on 14 September 2016 - 12:16 AM, said:

In PvE, flurry is not bad even when compare to those awakening. Acro is supposed to be stronger than Flurry, but I still struggle reaching this DPS level as Tempest and WW.



As far as i know, and based on my calculations, Enhanced Spinning Cut gives you the most amount of damage per second of cooldown for any skill.

If we assume your ESC to hit 1.2b [I saw your RDN HC service run, 400m/hit with only MB debuff], that gives you approximately 100m dmg per second of cooldown (provided you're using cooldown plate).

Unless your Tempest and WW have skills that have the same, or higher damage per cooldown as ESC, then Flurry will always be on top.

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 02:00 PM

Don't

Ever

Talk

About

Lancea

IN PVP

Edited by chunyee, 14 September 2016 - 02:00 PM.


#9 XaelCry

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 08:01 PM

View Postchunyee, on 14 September 2016 - 02:00 PM, said:

Don't

Ever

Talk

About

Lancea

IN PVP
+ Bug, make the class **** tier in pvp (lol)

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 08:29 PM

View Postvangeodee, on 14 September 2016 - 04:39 AM, said:

As far as i know, and based on my calculations, Enhanced Spinning Cut gives you the most amount of damage per second of cooldown for any skill.

If we assume your ESC to hit 1.2b [I saw your RDN HC service run, 400m/hit with only MB debuff], that gives you approximately 100m dmg per second of cooldown (provided you're using cooldown plate).

Unless your Tempest and WW have skills that have the same, or higher damage per cooldown as ESC, then Flurry will always be on top.
AC Blooming Kick does 9829% damage. Usually +1'd via Ring and use damage plate (+20%).
It's lower-bound theoretical CD is 4.166s when ShowTime is active.

So if we scale this theoretical CD to 12s (assuming Flurry use CD plate, not dmg plate), AC BK is 28,307% every 12s, significantly higher than ESC's 20k%.

Most of the time, the problem is the AC being capped while the window to use AC BK isn't always available.

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 09:30 PM

View Postfourrier, on 14 September 2016 - 08:29 PM, said:

AC Blooming Kick does 9829% damage. Usually +1'd via Ring and use damage plate (+20%).
It's lower-bound theoretical CD is 4.166s when ShowTime is active.

So if we scale this theoretical CD to 12s (assuming Flurry use CD plate, not dmg plate), AC BK is 28,307% every 12s, significantly higher than ESC's 20k%.

Most of the time, the problem is the AC being capped while the window to use AC BK isn't always available.

I stand corrected then. I'm not familiar with Acrobats as I have literally never touched one, so I don't want to make assumptions, however based from my own computations, and experience, ESC still hits more than any other skill I've used.

By the way, I checked my Flurry, the spinning cut skill itself shows 5523% board damage for stage 2 charging, which produces 22,092%. 24,300% if you include the +1 from the skill ring (I don't know how to consider the EX increase to the skill's base %, so I just report what I see from the spinning cut skill itself).

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 09:32 PM

View PostFirePhoenix, on 14 September 2016 - 12:16 AM, said:

In PvE, flurry is not bad even when compare to those awakening. Acro is supposed to be stronger than Flurry, but I still struggle reaching this DPS level as Tempest and WW.

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That's insane :o Off-topic, what does better DPS, WW or tempest?

Edited by Gelmeister, 14 September 2016 - 09:41 PM.


#13 KusanagiAsuka

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 09:38 PM

View PostGelmeister, on 14 September 2016 - 09:32 PM, said:

That's insane :o Off-topic, what does better DPS, WW or acro?
If you refer WW to windwalker,
WW is one of the path that acro has. The other one is tempest

#14 Gelmeister

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 09:41 PM

View PostKusanagiAsuka, on 14 September 2016 - 09:38 PM, said:

If you refer WW to windwalker,
WW is one of the path that acro has. The other one is tempest

Oh I know that. Lol it should have been tempest not acro. XD gonna change it.

#15 XaelCry

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 11:39 PM

Dem.. only kappa talk about pvp (no)

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Posted 02 October 2016 - 10:28 PM

Lancea's SA & SAB are so, so frustating in PvP... (sorry)

And it's kinda hard to fight against Acro. While we don't have so much openings, Acro has a lot of escapes.
Think carefully before using your Aerial Evasion. Don't act recklessly, you might not make it out alive.