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#21 XxXh0lic

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Posted 15 October 2016 - 09:30 AM

View PostYuriCode, on 15 October 2016 - 07:58 AM, said:

Hey this is decent right? I mean with your gears you can solo some nests like DDL, ABN, MANTI [HC] no sweat right? (clap)

Is the repair really a big deal in pvp its like a 50 seconds cool down to reduce 7 seconds of cool down on everything. (oo;)

Sorry to noob to understand. I mean I'd go Ruina if repair is not too much of a big deal. (:[)

50 seconds - 20% from Repair plate = 40 seconds

40 seconds - 7 seconds from its own effect = 33 seconds

- Has iframe
- Extremely fast unlike Warriors' Relieve
- Can cure Time Stop and other debuffs
- Can even be used in mid-air when you are juggled by the opponent.
- Reduces 7 seconds of ALL your active skills.

#22 YuriCode

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Posted 15 October 2016 - 08:06 PM

View PostXxXh0lic, on 15 October 2016 - 09:30 AM, said:

50 seconds - 20% from Repair plate = 40 seconds

40 seconds - 7 seconds from its own effect = 33 seconds

- Has iframe
- Extremely fast unlike Warriors' Relieve
- Can cure Time Stop and other debuffs
- Can even be used in mid-air when you are juggled by the opponent.
- Reduces 7 seconds of ALL your active skills.

Now that's is some extreme additional survivability. (oo)

Sir xh0lic thank you always there helping me. Do you have a Defensio character as well? (clap)

Planing to take my job change quest tonight (I'm from PH) going Defensio.

If you do have a Defensio can I message you my skill build and check if it is okay. (:]) (shame)

Edited by YuriCode, 15 October 2016 - 08:38 PM.


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Posted 16 October 2016 - 02:24 AM

View PostYuriCode, on 15 October 2016 - 07:58 AM, said:

Hey this is decent right? I mean with your gears you can solo some nests like DDL, ABN, MANTI [HC] no sweat right? (clap)

Is the repair really a big deal in pvp its like a 50 seconds cool down to reduce 7 seconds of cool down on everything. (oo;)

Sorry to noob to understand. I mean I'd go Ruina if repair is not too much of a big deal. (:[)

Yeah, but it takes some time compared to other classes.

And yes, repair is a big deal in pvp. More survivability/escapes = better chances of winning.

And in addition to what XxXh0lic said, you can cast ANY skills immediately after casting repair which will surprise your opponents. Imagine Repair to Kidney Blow (my personal favorite), Lariat, Foot stomp, or Taunting Blow.

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- Can even be used in mid-air when you are juggled by the opponent.
Just a note, when you use repair mid-air, you are brought down to the ground almost immediately, this would give you the chance to use tumble (to prolong your iframe) or use other skills immediately (refer to my previous statement).

Edited by Feel, 16 October 2016 - 02:26 AM.


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Posted 16 October 2016 - 02:44 AM

View PostFeel, on 16 October 2016 - 02:24 AM, said:

Yeah, but it takes some time compared to other classes.

And yes, repair is a big deal in pvp. More survivability/escapes = better chances of winning.

And in addition to what XxXh0lic said, you can cast ANY skills immediately after casting repair which will surprise your opponents. Imagine Repair to Kidney Blow (my personal favorite), Lariat, Foot stomp, or Taunting Blow.


Just a note, when you use repair mid-air, you are brought down to the ground almost immediately, this would give you the chance to use tumble (to prolong your iframe) or use other skills immediately (refer to my previous statement).

Thank you! ^^

My Machina is now a Defensio. Hooray! (hat) (cake) (<3)

#25 XxXh0lic

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Posted 16 October 2016 - 11:38 AM

View PostYuriCode, on 15 October 2016 - 08:06 PM, said:

Now that's is some extreme additional survivability. (oo)

Sir xh0lic thank you always there helping me. Do you have a Defensio character as well? (clap)

Planing to take my job change quest tonight (I'm from PH) going Defensio.

If you do have a Defensio can I message you my skill build and check if it is okay. (:]) (shame)

Yeah. My main PvP character is Defensio. Coincidentally, I'm also from PH. Mabuhay besh!

#26 XxXh0lic

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Posted 16 October 2016 - 11:48 AM

View PostFeel, on 16 October 2016 - 02:24 AM, said:

And in addition to what XxXh0lic said, you can cast ANY skills immediately after casting repair which will surprise your opponents. Imagine Repair to Kidney Blow (my personal favorite), Lariat, Foot stomp, or Taunting Blow.

Repair is so fast, people accuse me of being a lagger all the time. (:D) (:D) (:D)

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Posted 16 October 2016 - 05:16 PM

View PostXxXh0lic, on 16 October 2016 - 11:48 AM, said:

Repair is so fast, people accuse me of being a lagger all the time. br=

Totally agree with this. Because if you cast a skill immediately after repair, it looks like you are using the skill in mid-air (or that's what my GF sees who is also my sparring partner) (clap)

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Posted 16 October 2016 - 07:26 PM

View PostXxXh0lic, on 16 October 2016 - 11:38 AM, said:

Yeah. My main PvP character is Defensio. Coincidentally, I'm also from PH. Mabuhay besh!

View PostXxXh0lic, on 16 October 2016 - 11:48 AM, said:

Repair is so fast, people accuse me of being a lagger all the time. br=

Mabuhay Master! (:D)

What server do you play? I wish I won't regret going Defensio since it sucks a lot in PVE.

But a monster in PvP when mastered. (clap)

Still deciding if I play 90% of my time PVE and 10% PVP might as well go Ruina. I really don't know. (:[)

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 10:47 AM

View PostFeel, on 16 October 2016 - 05:16 PM, said:

Totally agree with this. Because if you cast a skill immediately after repair, it looks like you are using the skill in mid-air (or that's what my GF sees who is also my sparring partner) (clap)

"Wtf! Lagger! How did you get up even though you were knocked down?!"


View PostYuriCode, on 16 October 2016 - 07:26 PM, said:

Mabuhay Master! br=
What server do you play? I wish I won't regret going Defensio since it sucks a lot in PVE.

But a monster in PvP when mastered. (clap)

Still deciding if I play 90% of my time PVE and 10% PVP might as well go Ruina. I really don't know. (:[)

I play on Westwood.

If you're not convinced with Defensio's performance in PvE, you could always create a Ruina and transfer all your gears to her. They basically have the same build anyway.

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Posted 18 October 2016 - 06:14 PM

View PostXxXh0lic, on 17 October 2016 - 10:47 AM, said:

I play on Westwood.

If you're not convinced with Defensio's performance in PvE, you could always create a Ruina and transfer all your gears to her. They basically have the same build anyway.

Master! When I reach max level on Defensio can you teach me some combo or give me some tips on PvP? (shame)

Maybe we can spar too on your free time so I could train. (fire)

IGN : TigerYuri

Hoping to play with you soon I play GW/WW too! (:D)

Edited by YuriCode, 18 October 2016 - 06:15 PM.


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Posted 18 October 2016 - 08:35 PM

PVE Defensio here. I made my machina defensio for the blocks, heal / high def stat and taunt.

I also enjoy some airtime too with some skills.

Damage is not a priority for me. Survivability is.

Added an element to her which gives her slightly higher board damage.

She only suffers on the lack of elemental debuff to augment her skills. But this is compensated with a good party lineup

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Posted 18 October 2016 - 11:20 PM

View PostYuriCode, on 18 October 2016 - 06:14 PM, said:

Master! When I reach max level on Defensio can you teach me some combo or give me some tips on PvP? (shame)

Maybe we can spar too on your free time so I could train. (fire)

IGN : TigerYuri

Hoping to play with you soon I play GW/WW too! br=

Well good luck grinding your Defensio. I'll spar with you whenever I'm available.

IGN: OverNeko

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Posted 19 October 2016 - 12:32 AM

Are there a lot of pvp players in GW/WW? I'm thinking of creating a Chronicle Char to visit you guys there and get my ass kicked in PvP (clap)

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Posted 19 October 2016 - 10:32 AM

View PostFeel, on 19 October 2016 - 12:32 AM, said:

Are there a lot of pvp players in GW/WW? I'm thinking of creating a Chronicle Char to visit you guys there and get my ass kicked in PvP (clap)

You mean Machina pvp players?

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Posted 19 October 2016 - 07:05 PM

View PostXxXh0lic, on 19 October 2016 - 10:32 AM, said:

You mean Machina pvp players?

Yeah, here in HW/SW I rarely see a machina in PvP, be it group PvP or 1v1 (clap)

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Posted 19 October 2016 - 09:36 PM

View PostFeel, on 19 October 2016 - 07:05 PM, said:

Yeah, here in HW/SW I rarely see a machina in PvP, be it group PvP or 1v1 (clap)

Not really. I'm not sure about GPvP rooms as I have never set foot in one but I can assure you that Machina's population is extremely scarce. You'll mostly see just about 3 Machinas roaming around in 1v1 rooms and occasionally some new low ranks which I never see again.

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 06:57 AM

Goodluck PVP-ing with OverNeko. He's so pro you'd only be annoyed. He can defeat you without using damage inheritance and only normal attacks and such.

He's also quite lag (not repair lag) at times to be frank, which I can sometimes relate to since I usually catch him during peak hours.

But I guess at least youd see his combo and adapt it. Then try fighting against easy classes like warriors and clerics, you'd realize that whatever you do, machina is imba in pvp and you can basically chain an unli combo to anyone in no time.

Once you get used to command enhancement stuff, youd be good to go but then you wont be able to do much PVE if you get bored in PVP. So just create another char I thnk for PVE purposes.