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#21 Nvin

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Posted 05 December 2016 - 02:17 AM

View PostMilit, on 03 December 2016 - 03:09 AM, said:

Maybe include a short section on the differences?

I did some reading and i'm still a little confused

still good job (clap)

yeah, i'm thinking about that too. Maybe this weekend (:])

#22 UltraMega

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Posted 06 December 2016 - 07:59 AM

View PostNvin, on 04 December 2016 - 04:07 AM, said:




Thanks! (:]) Welcome to the path of the wind!

I'm still finding precious time to update some infos here. (T.T)
No recent updates from the acrobat thread yet, so I think everything compiled is still up to date ^^

Just a quick question and to confirm if what im planning to buy on the extra Skill plate (the one in cc shop) is it right to take Kick shot to +1 my skill? Since in the rotation above and because of its fast cooldown its usually being used? Sorry coz i dont see much tempest in GW/WW to peek on their extra skill plate. Thanks!

#23 Nvin

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Posted 06 December 2016 - 10:29 PM

View PostUltraMega, on 06 December 2016 - 07:59 AM, said:

Just a quick question and to confirm if what im planning to buy on the extra Skill plate (the one in cc shop) is it right to take Kick shot to +1 my skill? Since in the rotation above and because of its fast cooldown its usually being used? Sorry coz i dont see much tempest in GW/WW to peek on their extra skill plate. Thanks!

Yes, IMO, it is alright to take +1 Cash Heraldy for Kick Shot since:
  • It is not allowed for Punch Smash (CIIMW)
  • As you mentioned, you could spam it since it has a low CD
  • Hurricane Dance and Spiral Vortex are not AC priorities
But maybe you could consider is Double Somersault Kick
  • can also be spammed thanks to Butterfly effect awakening passive
  • can be chained with AC punch smash (the priority AC Skill)
  • CD is also low, if not 0.
  • Has Iframe
I think you would benefit more with DSK than KS.

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Posted 07 December 2016 - 07:54 AM

View PostNvin, on 06 December 2016 - 10:29 PM, said:



Yes, IMO, it is alright to take +1 Cash Heraldy for Kick Shot since:
  • It is not allowed for Punch Smash (CIIMW)
  • As you mentioned, you could spam it since it has a low CD
  • Hurricane Dance and Spiral Vortex are not AC priorities
But maybe you could consider is Double Somersault Kick
  • can also be spammed thanks to Butterfly effect awakening passive
  • can be chained with AC punch smash (the priority AC Skill)
  • CD is also low, if not 0.
  • Has Iframe
I think you would benefit more with DSK than KS.

Thanks for the tip!!! :) really apreciate it. Im going to check now which skill has +1 on the cyan rings so i may balance it. Planning on swapping my RDL rings for skill rings with dark elem sacrificing that 300+ fd. Hoping it will yield better damage.

Edited by UltraMega, 07 December 2016 - 07:55 AM.


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Posted 09 December 2016 - 03:20 PM

View PostUltraMega, on 07 December 2016 - 07:54 AM, said:

Thanks for the tip!!! :) really apreciate it. Im going to check now which skill has +1 on the cyan rings so i may balance it. Planning on swapping my RDL rings for skill rings with dark elem sacrificing that 300+ fd. Hoping it will yield better damage.

Hi ultramega, sorry my reply is kinda late (got a bit busy the past days)

Final damage and Elemental Attack kinda suffer diminishing returns (if both are considered in the equation such as this case LINK) so it might be a headache or so.

I  somehow made a calculator for me and my guild mates that might help. Here it is, damage comparison calculator

It calculates your average attack based on the stats on your Stat Window. I hope this can help you decide whether or not Elemental Skill rings be beneficial or FD would be better


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For the damage calculator, credits for this sheet for the FD caclulation

edit: grammar

Edited by Nvin, 09 December 2016 - 03:23 PM.


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Posted 11 December 2016 - 06:51 AM

i just realize max level spiral kick can do more than 10k damage in pvp. and now i have 2 ww in same id (clap) . one ww pure pve and the other one go pvp.
but still lack in sp problem. and hard to choose between lv 11 spiral voltex and l leave dsk to lv 4. (like tzushock build) or i max dsk and spiral voltex is only lv 1 ?.

damn he so pro using all class in pvp (oo)

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Posted 11 December 2016 - 07:04 PM

View PostEvellyn, on 11 December 2016 - 06:51 AM, said:

i just realize max level spiral kick can do more than 10k damage in pvp. and now i have 2 ww in same id (clap) . one ww pure pve and the other one go pvp.
but still lack in sp problem. and hard to choose between lv 11 spiral voltex and l leave dsk to lv 4. (like tzushock build) or i max dsk and spiral voltex is only lv 1 ?.

damn he so pro using all class in pvp (oo)

Maybe if you use AC ED, go for DSK Max. If not, prolly SV is better.

I am now curious on SK potential on pvp, but I rarely ise it offensively.

Did you take SK awkening too evellyn? How was it? :D


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Posted 11 December 2016 - 09:06 PM

View PostNvin, on 11 December 2016 - 07:04 PM, said:

Maybe if you use AC ED, go for DSK Max. If not, prolly SV is better.

I am now curious on SK potential on pvp, but I rarely ise it offensively.

Did you take SK awkening too evellyn? How was it? :D

doesnt help a lot. spiral kick can do 7 hit. when reach max lv perhit can do 1000-1500 damage. + flip back kick 7000->8000 damage. i dont  use spiral kick damage plate. i only have 4 heraldy skill slot (:D) . i dont want to buy more because its not permanent. and my pve char already buy it. use spiral kick +1 from weapon.

it will help if spiral kick awakening have i frame again (:>) or they give damage reduce
  try a group pvp today. its hard to kill someone. the other always steal my prey (mad).  and group pvp so lag. fire,magma, ice, lightning, poison. everywhere (lol)

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 12:51 AM

View PostEvellyn, on 11 December 2016 - 09:06 PM, said:

doesnt help a lot. spiral kick can do 7 hit. when reach max lv perhit can do 1000-1500 damage. + flip back kick 7000->8000 damage. i dont  use spiral kick damage plate. i only have 4 heraldy skill slot and=
it will help if spiral kick awakening have i frame again (:>) or they give damage reduce
  try a group pvp today. its hard to kill someone. the other always steal my prey (mad).  and group pvp so lag. fire,magma, ice, lightning, poison. everywhere (lol)

So SK awakening is really meh? regardless PvE or PvP?

Yeah, bring back iframes! (:>)

and... YEAH LAG KILLS! XD

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 03:28 AM

View PostNvin, on 12 December 2016 - 12:51 AM, said:

So SK awakening is really meh? regardless PvE or PvP?

Yeah, bring back iframes! (:>)

and... YEAH LAG KILLS! XD
for me, doesnt help much (:D) , i dont know for the other ww maybe you should try and decide it. i doubt they will give back i frame. archer always be devs nerf target in pvp. when people complain about archer, the nerf will coming in next update.
for nerf sorc, they refuse it.
and i watch black mara pvp, the new cancerous class from sorc +1, less cd, high  damage. even without transformation the damage is really good. and can compete with awakening class. sorc really a beast in pvp.
maybe archer more suit in pve than pvp.

sometimes i feel flip back kick from spiral kick become slower.

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Posted 13 December 2016 - 03:33 AM

View PostEvellyn, on 12 December 2016 - 03:28 AM, said:

for me, doesnt help much always= for nerf sorc, they refuse it.
and i watch black mara pvp, the new cancerous class from sorc +1, less cd, high  damage. even without transformation the damage is really good. and can compete with awakening class. sorc really a beast in pvp.
maybe archer more suit in pve than pvp.

sometimes i feel flip back kick from spiral kick become slower.

About Awk. SK, I might try it sometime, I actually planned to but I don't have that much time yet.

About Black Mara, I saw it too and thay are disastrous (sob) But I don't find something new. I really find Sorceress being on top everywhere since I played. Atleast they gave us some love with these WW awakening.  Not that much OPness, but also not as much weaker (like previous caps).

Regarding the slow back flip, I actually like the delay on the back flip of spiral kick, it makes me have time to fix camera rotation. (I am problematic with the auto back and is not helping me at all, so I use the manual rotate with 80 Mouse Sensitivity.)

SK> around 2secs delay, re-aim > backflip / another SK

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Posted 17 December 2016 - 06:43 PM

Update:

Added AC Skill Comparison Calculator

Kindly inform me if there is something wrong with the computation. TIA (<3)

Note:
  • Does not include other multipliers such as FD, Critical Damage and Elemental


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Posted 20 January 2017 - 02:34 AM

I think i might need to update some infos here, but there hasn't been any updates for us acrobats yet.

(shame)

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Posted 22 January 2017 - 06:40 PM

I'm pretty content with our current state. better than getting smacked down with another wave of uncalled for nerfs, at any rate (shame)

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Posted 22 January 2017 - 10:16 PM

About the plates for Tempests, I think DSK plate can be changed to blooming kick one.
I personally don't use double somersault kick anymore except for DQs.

There's that pause of dps after doing dsk (airborne) which kinda kills it. (:D)

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Posted 22 January 2017 - 10:39 PM

View PostHurriDANCE, on 22 January 2017 - 10:16 PM, said:

About the plates for Tempests, I think DSK plate can be changed to blooming kick one.
I personally don't use double somersault kick anymore except for DQs.

There's that pause of dps after doing dsk (airborne) which kinda kills it. %20br=
I think DSK should spam for CM1. In my skill detailed. DSK usually at 10% which is pretty good.

Edited by FirePhoenix, 22 January 2017 - 10:41 PM.


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Posted 23 January 2017 - 11:09 PM

I wonder if it's a good idea to take Wise of the Owl skill plate after tomorrow's patch... for Tempest atleast.

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Posted 24 January 2017 - 01:18 AM

View PostHurriDANCE, on 22 January 2017 - 10:16 PM, said:

About the plates for Tempests, I think DSK plate can be changed to blooming kick one.
I personally don't use double somersault kick anymore except for DQs.

There's that pause of dps after doing dsk (airborne) which kinda kills it. br=

Hello Twinny! (;])  
I am little bit bias regarding DSK (because it is one of my favorite skill animation on the Acrobat tree, so tend to use it often  (lol) )

View Postlimjomat, on 23 January 2017 - 11:09 PM, said:

I wonder if it's a good idea to take Wise of the Owl skill plate after tomorrow's patch... for Tempest atleast.
IIRC, Wise and Rage of Owl buffs stack, that would yield to 30% increase to critical damage, which is great.

However, I think I read it somewhere in the forums that Critical Damage already suffers diminishing returns since we all have 200% by default.

So i think you could take that into consideration if you are thinking of having a CD/Duration plate for wise of owl.

Personally, I did not take wise of owl to my 4 archers and only took it on my Silver Hunter and spent the 10 sp elsewhere. I personally find Rage of Owl suffice.

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Posted 25 January 2017 - 10:47 PM

Oh WW has a slightly change. Now if you using SK/AP when Air current < 50, your AC Skill (like BK) will not change to Yellow.

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 12:59 AM

View PostFirePhoenix, on 25 January 2017 - 10:47 PM, said:

Oh WW has a slightly change. Now if you using SK/AP when Air current < 50, your AC Skill (like BK) will not change to Yellow.

Ah so dat wud be same with Tempest's PS. I thought i was just lagging.