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#1 BlueSoapxr

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Posted 02 January 2017 - 01:09 PM

The last time I played DN was the 32 cap. So it's been a long long time. Everything has changed, and when I say everything I mean EVERYTHING.

So I would like to know that in a neutral class (sniper). Would it be better to go for pure patk or dark element build?

If dark element is better than neutral, would it be better to just go for a dark class? Say abyss walker.

Lastly, are there any updated dps tiers for all classes currently?

Thanks guys.

#2 Xenocho

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Posted 02 January 2017 - 02:56 PM

element build

dark better than neutral but it has nothing to do with a specific element itself. it just means gearing for ele is better than neutral.

dps tiers are subjective to ones gears. awakened classes are stronger than nonawakened classes in most cases.

please browse forum and read up too. thx

Edited by Xenocho, 02 January 2017 - 02:57 PM.


#3 zuyi

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Posted 02 January 2017 - 06:04 PM

View PostXenocho, on 02 January 2017 - 02:56 PM, said:

please browse forum and read up too. thx

If you wish to disregard this silly and lazy bit of advice from someone who doesn't want to type too much, let me help you with DPS tiers:

S Tier:
Saint, Physician, Guardian (because awakened)

A Tier:
LF, Defensio, Destroyer (because not awakened / is a w3wrior)

B Tier:
Credit/Debit Card, Raven, Ripper, Flurry

C Tier:
Everything else that is not in any above tiers or D Tier.

D Tier:
Silver Hunter, Sting Breezer, Dark Summoner.


Once again, if you do wish to disregard lazy Xeno's advice, expect more wise posts like this one.

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#4 BlueSoapxr

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Posted 02 January 2017 - 07:40 PM

Thank you for the replies. I have been reading up on the forums. But there aren't many accurate updated tier lists. So sniper isn't top tier dps anymore? Hmm.

Another question.
Dark > neutral
So would it be cheaper to just go for a dark class (aw), than to go for a patk and convert to dark later on?

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Posted 03 January 2017 - 07:36 PM

View PostBlueSoapxr, on 02 January 2017 - 07:40 PM, said:

Thank you for the replies. I have been reading up on the forums. But there aren't many accurate updated tier lists. So sniper isn't top tier dps anymore? Hmm.

Another question.
Dark > neutral
So would it be cheaper to just go for a dark class (aw), than to go for a patk and convert to dark later on?

Doesn't matter much.
All you need is elemental conversion jades.
But if youre on a budget, elemental fixed class is a little cheaper to fund.

Edited by ChellyChi, 03 January 2017 - 07:38 PM.


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Posted 03 January 2017 - 07:41 PM

View PostBlueSoapxr, on 02 January 2017 - 07:40 PM, said:

Thank you for the replies. I have been reading up on the forums. But there aren't many accurate updated tier lists. So sniper isn't top tier dps anymore? Hmm.

Another question.
Dark > neutral
So would it be cheaper to just go for a dark class (aw), than to go for a patk and convert to dark later on?

i hope u didn't take my dps ranking seriously u.u

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Posted 03 January 2017 - 07:47 PM

Why the idea that dark = good = go AW? What is the basis of this suggestion?

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Posted 03 January 2017 - 08:13 PM

View PostXenocho, on 03 January 2017 - 07:47 PM, said:

Why the idea that dark = good = go AW? What is the basis of this suggestion?
I think most people catergorize good dps with fixed elemental class due to the previous few meta, sin, maj, adept , inquis.
As all elemental locked classes.
In addition to pre release of ecj during 70 cap. ( only destruction/magic ) jades for non ele classes. So they dont benefit from debuff stacks. Which can superimpose up til 200% or more

Edited by ChellyChi, 03 January 2017 - 08:15 PM.


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Posted 03 January 2017 - 08:32 PM

View PostChellyChi, on 03 January 2017 - 08:13 PM, said:

I think most people catergorize good dps with fixed elemental class due to the previous few meta, sin, maj, adept , inquis.
As all elemental locked classes.
In addition to pre release of ecj during 70 cap. ( only destruction/magic ) jades for non ele classes. So they dont benefit from debuff stacks. Which can superimpose up til 200% or more

Hmmm but he did say everything is changed so its weird that he kept hugging the old meta, and constantly giving the same example too. If he insisted Raven as dark class it would have sounded more plausible.

Well anyway hope this helps him out more than post 3 *cough* ;D

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Posted 03 January 2017 - 08:40 PM

View PostXenocho, on 03 January 2017 - 08:32 PM, said:



Hmmm but he did say everything is changed so its weird that he kept hugging the old meta, and constantly giving the same example too. If he insisted Raven as dark class it would have sounded more plausible.

Well anyway hope this helps him out more than post 3 *cough* ;D
:/ welp, beats me.
But legitmately speaking, i would agree with saint HAHAHAH. xD

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Posted 03 January 2017 - 08:51 PM

View PostXenocho, on 03 January 2017 - 08:32 PM, said:

Well anyway hope this helps him out more than post 3 *cough* ;D

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